Posts by BU2B

Mr Flipper- That was a very nice response your son had for his mother, reminding her that he is the same person, and simply looks at some things in a different way than she does. Maybe one day she will see that what he is saying is the truth. You are definitely correct in that they are suffering from a form of mental illness. Have you ever seen the movie They Live? Its like having the glasses on, yet in WT land they dont even want to hide their demands to obey, its right out in the open and eagerly followed. I am happy your mom has retained her natural personality! She must be one special lady :)

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JW video Memes ...........Delusional humor

by Watchtower-Free in

https://instagram.com/jw_video_memes/.

https://instagram.com/p/zlaylblgo5/?modal=true.

BU2B

That was uncomfortably akward to see for some reason.

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

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i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

BU2B

Thanks for the comment Millie. It gives me hope.

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

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i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

BU2B

Yes! it is crazy how similiar this letter is to others I have read that others have posted! Its almost like JW parents are following an exact template for letter writing. They truly do have unity of mind, just like they brag about. Its scary how natural care and concern go out the window. I wonder what unconditional love from a parent feels like. I would even settle for conditional love, so long as those conditions do not include something as petty and controlling as YOUR CHILD THINKING EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS YOU! If I dont follow the things I was PERSUADED to believe, I am a lost cause!

Steve Hassan says that cult members have an authentic personality and a cult persona. I know my wife has both, but Im not sure my mom does. She is so immersed in the cult and "spiritually strong" that I think the natural and cult persona are actually the same! I love her and have some fond memories of childhood, but most trips involved conventions and assemblies and long 8 hour drives to bethel. My years before going to school were spent in FS all day, and my school years consisted of being picked on in school, going to 3 meetings a week, FS on Saturdays followed by KH cleaning. No friends, hardly and gifts, travel. Just boring steamy hot bookstudy basements studying the revelation book. My parents always fed me, gave me a clean and warm home and never abused me and for that I am glad, however I just do not feel close to them anymore. I do feel robbed of a childhood. I do not think at all like them being an athiest leaning agnostic and I feel all of our interactions are for the purpose of getting me to be "more spiritual family head"

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Female Perspective about WTS, marital relationship & control

by Muddy Waters in

despite my user name, am female.

i was not born-in, began studying when i was around 20, am 50 damn years old now and have spent almost the last 30 years in that stupid religion.

but here are some observations, make of them what you will.

BU2B

Wow muddy waters, what a great post. I agree with everything you said, and enjoyed the perspective from the other side. I am living it right now as that husband, walking a tightrope.

Even little, small things are irritating like seeing a great movie that I know my wife would love, yet not being able to watch it with her because she wont watch a "r rated" movie.

I fear stopping going to meetings all together because I cant handle all the stress and turmoil at home, so for now I am just floating along, doing as little JW related as humanly possible and trying to build my marriage up. Trouble is, I have to fight feelings of resentment that creep up because I feel I am not in control of my life or my kids life. I feel she is, and I resent that. Sometimes I feel the flight or fight instinct and have a overwhelming urge to run away and see the world, join the coast guard, peace corp or anything to take me away from anything JW related, my wife, my parents. The only thing holding me back is my kids. I cannot leave them in the hands of religious fanatics. At least with me there they will have a moderating, common sense imput in their lives that will teach them to think independently and critically, skills they likely would never gain without me in the picture.

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

BU2B

Dear Son,

I've been reflecting on the spiritual inheritance I have recieved from grandma. I appreciate her love and effort to help her 7 children to learn about Jehovah and how to serve him.

Your father and I have been able to pass that inheritance on to you. We are very thankful that you have accepted it (3 Jn 4) I pray that "you continue in the things you have learned and were PERSUADED to believe" (1 Ti 3:15) That you deepen your love for Jehovah through your daily bible reading and personal study. So that you love Jehovah with your whole heart and with your whole mind and with your whole soul and with your whole strength" (luke 10:27) That you continue to "endure fully with patience and joy" (col 1:11) Know that hapiness can come from freely giving. That you encourage others and be encouraged by them. Always humbly look to Jehovah for guidance and wisdom in all you do.

So now its your turn, along with Lisa to pass that inheritance on to your girls. I look forward to when we can enjoy our inheritance fully after this old world is gone. See you at the buffet Saturday (she means the A$$embly) Want to take in all that Jehovah has prepared for us.

Love you all very, very, very much- MA

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

BU2B

Somehow the letter got butchered. I am about to repost the whole thing.. Please hold

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

BU2B

I wish I knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother. I know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow WT spectrum. If I do not meet her narrow expectations, I am a failure to her. Sad. Here is a letter she hand wrote me a few days ago. *sigh*

Dear Son,

I've been reflecting on the spiritual inheritance I have recieved from grandma. I appreciate her love and effort to help her 7 children to learn about Jehovah and how to serve him.

So now its your turn, along with Lisa to pass that inheritance on to your girls. I look forward to when we can enjoy our inheritance fully after this old world is gone. See you at the buffet Saturday (she means the A$$embly) Want to take in all that Jehovah has prepared for us.

Love you all very, very, very much- MA

WOW. She has seen me be stressed out somewhat lately (due do knowing TTATT and being "stuck in") and she thinks a letter like that will help. I just feel bad because, in her heart and mind that was encouraging and heartfelt, when all I see is a download of cult guilt and propaganda. She is a model JW. Pioneer, gets up at 5:00 am daily to do her "personal study" eat sleeps and breathes JWbroadcasting etc. She was born in going all the way back to the 50s! I have accepted that I will lose my parents one day, and as a result feel I have grown somewhat distant. Every conversation is laced with dub propaganda, and I prefer not to regularly subject myself to that and its subsequent FOG techniques. This letter upset me at first, but now it just saddens me that this is what my relationship with my parents has become. Most moms love their sons no matter what. Even ax murderers on death row who have lost everyone still can count on their mothers unconditional love. Must be nice.