The sad part is that pioneering is supposed to bring fulfillment and make you happy, but I can tell he is miserable. He probably does not even know why. He sees all the other pioneers are retired, vacationing, living comfortable lives. Its got to wear on you mentally. Dont they always say to have a full share for your circumstances? Why couldnt they do 30 hours a month and work? Why do they feel god would feel any less about that? Its messed up.
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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!
by BU2B into give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
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JWs, Rules, Laws and the Zone Meeting
by TheListener inmy takeaway from the zone visit and the reaction of some dubs i know and some i've read on here is this:.
dubs don't care what their actual religious beliefs are or how they change but they do seem to care a lot about having any specific counsel discussed from the platform.. .
i guess this makes them a lot like everyone else, and maybe now we know what the wts achilles heel may be.. .
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In the past, the standard of modesty was wearing clothes APPROPIATE for what you were doing. Like a swimsuit, while appropiate on the beach, would not be on Main st. Therefore workout clothes would be appropiate for WORKING OUT.
I think AMIII was just ranting, and doubt many of the other GB members would even agree with him, especially since Loesch is famous for sunbathing on the bethel roof in a speedo!
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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!
by BU2B into give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
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To give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s. Around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job. He worked as a auto mechanic making ok money. My mom has not worked in 30 years. She has been pioneering for the past 20.
Even though my mom is a skilled seamstress and tailor, she refuses to find even part time work, even laughing about it when I suggested it. My dad gets called back in to work on occasion to work a day here, a day there. His unemployment has run out and they still have to pay the mortgage, buy food, pay bills etc.
Heres where it gets crazy.. Although he has no retirement, and savings are dwindling He responded to the counsel at the assembly and decided to take advantage of his not working and applied to pioneer. Soon after this he got a job offer from an auto shop for a full tiime position 9-5 not interfering with any meetings or anything. He turned it down, since his unemployment at the time paid more. A couple months later the other mechanic at his original job that he got laid off from walked off the job, clearing a space for him to resume his full time position there. Here is where it gets crazy. He told me that he feels it is THE DEVIL offering him this job because SATAN wants him to come off the pioneer list! Let me be clear. They are getting older, have NO PLAN long term or short term other than pioneering.
This morning I asked him how he was making it? He responded that he is selling his golf club collection, classic TV show VHS tapes and DVD on ebay, even some furniture! I asked him what will happen when it runs out? He said he doesnt know but Jehovah will provide "bread" if they take things one day at a time!! Again he is TURNING DOWN MULTIPLE JOB OFFERS to pioneer and is now selling off golf clubs to pay the mortgage!
If my mom and dad both got part time jobs, they could still pioneer and if they lived simple, could make it. What they are doing now is incomprehensible to me, even as cult members. Their eyes even seem to glaze over and they have this wierd expression on their faces. Their walls and tables are lined with WT publications. I fear they are becoming more and more unbalanced and making really dubious decisions. The short sightedness is mind boggling. His savings are going down, no unemployment, and they refuse to work. All they can talk about is WT related things. When a well paying job offer is described as from Satan, that says it all.
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Zone Visit feedback, from ones still in??
by Crazyguy injust wondering if any one has heard from ones still asleep, what their feedback has been and what comments have been made by the rank and file??.
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Just kidding- This excerpt from JW facts provides the background on Barry. They have had semi sane members on the GB at one time,
Barbara Anderson worked in the writing department at the global headquarters, Brooklyn Bethel, during the 1990s. Anderson recalls that Governing Body member Lloyd Barry, who himself had a university degree, was behind this new stance on education.
“Lloyd Barry was empathetic towards the low-paying job plight of Witnesses as expressed in personal letters received at headquarters, and from Jehovah’s Witnesses branch office communiqués from around the world. … Due to difficult economic changes in a world that Witnesses could not escape from, Lloyd Barry, along with the rest of the Governing Body, authorized the November 1, 1992 Watchtower article that changed the view of Witnesses towards higher education.” 10
Anderson provides a second reason for the change.
“Interestingly, another Governing Body member, Dan Sydlik, shared with a friend that the Watchtower Society was finding itself in a difficult position because this mammoth publishing company needed skilled technical people but couldn't find them in the Witness community.” 11
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I would love, I mean LOVE to see him subpeonaed and be forced to testify in a modern day "Walsh Trial". It would me must see TV!
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Lloyd Barry was behind the temporary softening of the higher education ban. Ray Franz behind the softening of the DF policy. It seems that individual GB members have considerable power.
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Night and Day from GB to Writing committee? Someone explain?
by thedepressedsoul inim sure by now most of you are familiar with anthony morris talk from this weekend.
im even seeing memes posted all over instagram from jw mocking it.. here is my question, why are the things written so different from how the gb members, like anthony morris are?
i know the gb dont actually write the stuff but i was under the impression that they come up with the spiritual light pass if off to the writing committee and they put it in the publications.
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Was there any bloodguilt for the lives lost during the organ transplant ban? Vaccination ban? Malawi? Contrary to the "warning work" there were actually real, tangible lives lost over changed teachings that are now ok! Anyone care to explain how that does not equal bloodguilt??
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Zone Visit feedback, from ones still in??
by Crazyguy injust wondering if any one has heard from ones still asleep, what their feedback has been and what comments have been made by the rank and file??.
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Im not really sure how other JWs took it, but my wife is the type of person to extract the "good" from a talk and forget the rest. Even she had to admit the 23 year old MS thing was crazy. I also got her to agree that much of what he said would never appear in any publication and was his opinion.
She said he is one of those people who is a loose cannon. You never know what they are going to say.
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They do seem to be featuring Tony the Turd more and more. He seems to be the dominant personality since Jaracz died. The shit will always float to the top, and that applies to government and big business as well.