I think the JWs are jealous of the Mormons success and copy them. The Mormons had family home evening, then the GB copied it and instituted family worship evening. Even the name is almost identical.
Posts by BU2B
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25Who is copying who? Jws or Mormons?
by stuckinarut2 init amazes me!.
witnesses go on about how "blessed we are to have the website and all the content from jehovah etc".
but i have been noticing the parallels between jws and the mormons!.
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Examining Genesis . Would your JW's ?
by Phizzy ini was talking to a jw a short time ago and it emerged in conversation that he believed in the literal truth of the bible's first book, genesis.. no great surprise there, but he said something pertinent, he said, "if you don't, then the whole of our belief falls apart".. i was wondering if this may be of use to those who are endeavouring to "wake up" jw family or friends.
a proper examination of genesis could be encouraged in a gentle way, raising questions the j.w's must answer, ( you may have to insist they answer them, not shove them aside as they love to do ), and eventually they will have to get to the point, if they are at all honest, that genesis is simply not literal truth.. then, their whole body of belief is undermined.. simples !.
well, the idea is, the execution may be impossible, but i just thought the idea may be helpful ?.
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BU2B
This tactic strikes at the heart not only of JWism, but also belief in the Bible and Christianity. You would be saving them time by killing "3 birds with one stone" if you can pull it off. Some though will dismiss everything and just say its a miracle! God could do anything!
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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!
by BU2B into give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
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BU2B
He looks for signs that the king of the north may be awakening. He is excited by US Russian tensions. Its sad to see.
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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!
by BU2B into give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
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BU2B
His unemployment has already run out!
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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!
by BU2B into give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
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BU2B
They hve got to be depressed growing older and older and poorer and poorer in 2014! If someone told them in the 80s or even on 9-11 that armageddon wouldnt be here yet, they would have called you a faithless person that needs immediate spiritual help!
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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!
by BU2B into give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
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BU2B
If they end up in a studio apartment in the ghetto I will be sad, but that is the wages of delusion. The end of the system has been "months" away and a "few years at most" for 100 years. I think the young JWs today will be planning much more for the future than any prior generation.
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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!
by BU2B into give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
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BU2B
My parents delusions are not my problem. If that makes me a bad person, I really dont care. I will help them however I can, but they will not move in, nor wiill I give them money. I view it like giving money to a junkie. I am trying to fade and have not been out in field service for months. Last Saturday, I explained some of the reasons to my wife. I told her that I feel uncomfortable teaching things to people as facts that I am unsure of, or are not true. I gave her the examples of a global flood, with some details why, the tower of Babel being built 100 years after and why it is impossible, and how 144000 cannot be a literal number. She already knows my issues with the blood doctrine. My point was that I cannot teach things that I do not believe to be true. At the end, she understood somewhat and did not know what to say. We are still on good terms, and I attend most meetings so far. I know that sooner or later she may want me to speak to the elders so that they can help me with my doubts. She does not view me as a raving apostate, but as someone who is "trying". If she asks me to go to them, I plan to agree and share similar reasons for my inactivity with them. They may not care about the flood stuff, but when I talk about the 144,000 thing or Blood issue they may move for the DF. I hope they do. Nothing so far has truly broken through to my wife but me getting DF for trying to "get help" for some doubts may be what she needs to see how cruel and bizzare this group is. It has worked for others.
My point? I cannot have Die hard JW parents around to counteract my plans. I cannot have them indoctrinating my kids on a higher level.
We are not in a position to help them if we wanted to. My whole childhood I never was given money or many gifts or anything else. When I was in highschool, I couldnt even get decent clothes or sneakers unless I worked for them, so I got a paper route. They gave me 5 dollars a week when I was 16! I am not affluent now, in fact my wife is thinking of picking up extra work on top of the daycare she co-owns. We have 2 kids, work full time, are very busy and tired. I dont have thousands or even hundreds to give even if I wanted to.
My whole childhood, EVERY assembly was talked about as maybe being the last one on the car ride home, I remember him saying that Bill Clinton would usher in the GT, I wont make it to High school, get married, have kids etc. He was and is still the #1 person for scouring the news looking for ways the WT interpretation of Bible prophecy is coming true. My parents recently told me that the reason they never had anymore kids is because they thought the end was so near in the early 90s. Looking back at the literature from that time, along with the Generation teaching, its not hard to see how gullibe people who think God is speaking through the GB could be fooled. He actually got excited by the announcement that the toes on Daniels Image mean nothing! That should give some Idea He never planned for retirement because there was NO WAY the system could have lasted this long. Its the mentality I was raised around. Its 2014 and no Armageddon is apparent. Steve Lett talks about JWbroadcast being used in the YEARS ahead! If they were students of WT history, they would have taken the "END IS NEAR" pronouncements with a grain of salt.
I dont mean to sound mean, but they will reap what they have sown. I do not think they will want to live with an "apostate" anyways. I will help them apply for public assistance, find jobs, etc but they must take responsibility. I cannot bear their heavy burden. I will not let the WT f*&k me over this way too.
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My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!
by BU2B into give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
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BU2B
I am pondering the idea about talking to his elders about it... Just for the record, he is an elder too. DOes that make a difference?
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Sweat/Yoga pants are replacing blue jeans
by Quarterback inthe news stated this week that blue jeans are not fashionable any longer.
a fad that got started as a working mans pants is being replaced by yoga pants.
or, sweat pants.
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BU2B
You cant let it get too loose though, then you will have to be counseled on being "slovenly" "sloppy" or imitating the "hip hop culture". Also if a woman wears clothes too loose or boyish, she will be gossiped about as a closet lesbian. You cant win. The only way to win is to ignore the counsel and "do your own thing"
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"Opinions about dress and grooming..."
by leaving_quietly infrom the july 15, 2014 watchtower, page 15. par.
"opinions about dress and grooming, health and nutrition, and other personal matters may also trigger controversy.
accordingly, if no scriptural principle is being violated, jehovah's people wisely abstain from arguing over such matters, "for a slave of the lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle [tactful, ftn.
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BU2B
He would argue that a scriptural principle was indeed being violated, namely to dress modestly and with a sound mind. Therefore the above quote is null and void as far as he is concerned.