Posts by enigma1863

It would be so much easier to nail each hand separately then to try to force both hands together. I cant imagine the victim being very cooperative. Then again they could have tied his hands together then nailed them. the story just doesn't add up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion:

Crucifixion was often performed to terrorize and dissuade its witnesses from perpetrating particularly heinous crimes. Victims were left on display after death as warnings to others who might attempt dissent. Crucifixion was usually intended to provide a death that was particularly slow, painful (hence the term excruciating, literally "out of crucifying"), gruesome, humiliating, and public, using whatever means were most expedient for that goal. Crucifixion methods varied considerably with location and time period.

The Greek and Latin words corresponding to "crucifixion" applied to many different forms of painful execution, from impaling on a stake to affixing to a tree, to an upright pole (a crux simplex) or to a combination of an upright (in Latin, stipes) and a crossbeam (in Latin, patibulum).[11]

In some cases, the condemned was forced to carry the crossbeam to the place of execution. A whole cross would weigh well over 135 kilos (300 lb), but the crossbeam would not be quite as burdensome, weighing around 45 kilos (100 lb).[12] The Roman historian Tacitus records that the city of Rome had a specific place for carrying out executions, situated outside the Esquiline Gate,[13] and had a specific area reserved for the execution of slaves by crucifixion.[14] Upright posts would presumably be fixed permanently in that place, and the crossbeam, with the condemned person perhaps already nailed to it, would then be attached to the post.

The person executed may have been attached to the cross by rope, though nails are mentioned in a passage by the Judean historian Josephus, where he states that at the Siege of Jerusalem (70), "the soldiers out of rage and hatred, nailed those they caught, one after one way, and another after another, to the crosses, by way of jest."[15] Objects used in the crucifixion of criminals, such as nails, were sought as amulets with perceived medicinal qualities.[16]

While a crucifixion was an execution, it was also a humiliation, by making the condemned as vulnerable as possible. Although artists have traditionally depicted the figure on a cross with a loin cloth or a covering of the genitals, the person being crucified was usually stripped naked. Writings by Seneca the Younger state some victims suffered a stick forced upwards through their groin.[17][18] Despite its frequent use by the Romans, the horrors of crucifixion did not escape mention by some of their eminent orators. Cicero for example, described crucifixion as "a most cruel and disgusting punishment",[19] and suggested that "the very mention of the cross should be far removed not only from a Roman citizen's body, but from his mind, his eyes, his ears."[20]

Frequently, the legs of the person executed were broken or shattered with an iron club, an act called crurifragium, which was also frequently applied without crucifixion to slaves.[21] This act hastened the death of the person but was also meant to deter those who observed the crucifixion from committing offenses.[21]

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Amateurs Built the Ark

by enigma1863 in

are you familiar with the motto "professionals built the titanic amateurs built the ark?".

i find it somewhat annoying.

i've been looking for a good analogy like amelia earhart was a professional pilot dorothy was just a girl from kansas but she got back home..

enigma1863

Are you familiar with the motto "Professionals built the Titanic Amateurs built the ark?"

I find it somewhat annoying. I've been looking for a good analogy like Amelia Earhart was a professional pilot Dorothy was just a girl from Kansas but she got back home.

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Statue of Marsyas died on a stake?

by enigma1863 in

so jws have been spreading this picture around claiming it supports the roman torture stake belief.

this is the statue of marsyas the satyr, a greek mythical creature.

he lost a challenge to apollo and was flayed.

enigma1863

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Statue of Marsyas died on a stake?

by enigma1863 in

so jws have been spreading this picture around claiming it supports the roman torture stake belief.

this is the statue of marsyas the satyr, a greek mythical creature.

he lost a challenge to apollo and was flayed.

enigma1863

So JWs have been spreading this picture around claiming it supports the Roman torture stake belief. Does it? This is the statue of Marsyas the satyr, a Greek mythical creature. He lost a challenge to Apollo and was flayed. Then his skin was nailed to a tree. They are always showing statues of pagan gods of Easter and the trinity. If you were consistent wouldn't this show evidence that the stake was of pagan origin as well?

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Breeding Ground for Sex offenders

by enigma1863 in

the watchtower would never claim that they want child molesters in their congregations.

no 'respectable' organization would.

that doesnt mean they are doing anything to prevent it though.

enigma1863

Scully they probably would equate the Watchtower with "Jehovah" and say don't let that one person ruin your personal relationship with god.

I think I've heard them use the illustration of the illogical decision of a husband divorcing his wife because his boss is giving him a hard time. I think it would be logical though if the boss was sleeping with his wife of the boss was a nagging controlling father but I digress.

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JWs on Facebook, Pinterest, etc.

by enigma1863 in

have you noticed how much jw crap there is online now.

there must be 20 jw.org facebook pages.

100s of jws have a pinterest page.

enigma1863

Have you noticed how much JW crap there is online now. There must be 20 JW.org Facebook pages. 100s of jws have a Pinterest page.

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jwtalk...wow. just...wow.

by HeyThere in

so i was lurking on jwtalk after trying to read the thread on there about the broadcast about the conti case...and holy moly there are some bat ish crazy talk on that site!

they also blocked the thread about the broadcast, lol!

they are scuuuuured (scared).

enigma1863

Who runs JWtalk.net?