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Experiences After Leaving
by Freeatlast2024 ini am writing to ask if anyone cares to share their experience and/or offer advice for people leaving.
i was raised in the religion, and both my parents died when i was very young.
i recently stopped associating because my conscience no longer allows me to preach or support the organization.
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The August 2024 Watchtower controversy and potential further changes
by ukpimo inas an educated guess, the august 2024 watchtower may be delayed because 2 complicated subjects need to be discussed in this issue which haven't yet been approved to be included in the revised shepherding textbook.
perhaps the revised shepherding textbook must be finalised before this watchtower is released publicly.. the 2 subjects may be as follows:.
how to shepherd and appoint brothers based on the removal of the hour requirements, getting to know the brothers instead (does this mean prioritising appointing men who have auxiliary pioneered during the co visit and campaigns or men who are regular pioneers?).
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jwleaks
My 'source' states that significant changes were made to a reference and historical statement relating to the role that International Bible Students Association played that needed to be amended for legal reasons. Think historical negationism. Something to do with IBSA owning kingdom halls, assembly halls, and branch building assets, and having ownership under various trust names such as The Kingdom Hall Trust.
Evidently the need arose to financially separate IBSA from the current governing body and JW/WT structure.
Time will tell.
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Wikipedia article on Milton Henschel has just been edited and now contains an introduction that could be misleading
by jwleaks inthe edit:.
henschel did not step down "from his leadership position in 2000".
he was a governing body member up until his death in 2003. a slight error but one that implies much more given the subject matter.. henschel resigned his position as the president of watch tower pennsylvania not as a leader of the jehovah's witnesses - his so-called "leadership position".. having accurate grass roots entry level information on members of the governing body is important in litigation for law firms, and for government departments undertaking a desktop study of such a person.. any wikipedians out there capable of correcting this statement.. .
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Wikipedia article on Milton Henschel has just been edited and now contains an introduction that could be misleading
by jwleaks inthe edit:.
henschel did not step down "from his leadership position in 2000".
he was a governing body member up until his death in 2003. a slight error but one that implies much more given the subject matter.. henschel resigned his position as the president of watch tower pennsylvania not as a leader of the jehovah's witnesses - his so-called "leadership position".. having accurate grass roots entry level information on members of the governing body is important in litigation for law firms, and for government departments undertaking a desktop study of such a person.. any wikipedians out there capable of correcting this statement.. .
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jwleaks
The edit:
Henschel did not step down "from his leadership position in 2000". He was a governing body member up until his death in 2003. A slight error but one that implies much more given the subject matter.
Henschel resigned his position as the president of Watch Tower Pennsylvania NOT as a leader of the Jehovah's Witnesses - his so-called "leadership position".
Having accurate grass roots entry level information on members of the governing body is important in litigation for law firms, and for government departments undertaking a desktop study of such a person.
Any Wikipedians out there capable of correcting this statement.
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
video.
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jwleaks
Has WTC paid into the scheme for victims? Or are they still obfuscating?The JWs are billed / charged as each case is agreed and settled WITHOUT the JWs control.
Currently there are up to 756 potential Redress Scheme claimants according to the video, although the real number is believed to be much higher.
[2:16 mark]
The average current Redress Scheme payout, across all institutions, is approximately $90,000. This makes the JWs potential exposure at around $68 million.
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Attorney Irwin Zalkin explains the article, Pa. courts weigh whether JW's elders must report confessed child abuse
by AndersonsInfo inthe pennsylvania supreme court memorandum opinion that i posted on this discussion board yesterday was confusing enough for me to ask attorney irwin zalkin to explain the issues.
he promptly replied and gave me permission to post here the following important information that he provided.. "the pennsylvania supreme court memorandum opinion raises the question of whether jehovah’s witnesses (“jw’s”) elders, who are volunteer clergy, fall under an exception to the mandatory reporting law of the state of pennsylvania.
jw’s members of the ivy hill congregation of jw’s sued the pa department of human services (dhs) and asked the court to issue a judgment that as a matter of law makes jw’s elders exempt from pa’s mandatory reporting of known or suspected child abuse, including child sexual abuse.
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jwleaks
Thanks Barbara and Irwin. A very concise explanation.
It is worth keeping in mind that when two elders, or a body of elders, report child sexual abuse to the Service Department they are communicating with an anonymous person. Further, that person is also under a Vow of Obedience to record and also report the information received to other elders.
And if the Service Department views the abuser / confessor as a threat to children in the congregation then the elders will be instructed to inform parents of the identity of the abuser / confessor.
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
video.
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jwleaks
I understand. It comes down to interpreting the laws in Australia, including working with children laws and the context of what is an institution.
For example, I appeared before parliament in Australia last year as a witness and gave evidence in relation to the National Redress Scheme application form questions.
To illustrate (the following paragraphs not being legal advice): a 19 year old male (or older) is allowed to ask a 16 or 17 year old female out on a date. Or vice versa. In most circumstances this is allowed. In fact repeated requests are allowed.
However, consider the following: if the male was a ministerial servant and he had a working with children card (as mandated by law) then it would restrict his ability to ask such a female (in the congregation) out on a date as he has legislated and congregational authority over her. If they did ‘date’ and ‘sexual sins’ followed, then the JW religion could be liable and subject to a Redress Scheme claim up to $150,000. There could be more to the events but that is not considered in this summation.
The governing body were offered help to navigate all of these potential problems but chose to ignore the help, and now the corporation will most likely financially suffer from their stubborness.
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
video.
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jwleaks
I never realised that the Redress Scheme applied to abuse victims who were under 18 years of age.
Under 18 years of age at the time they were abused, i.e. a child. The scheme is compensation for victims of child sexual abuse only.
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A special video has been released to assist people who have experienced child sexual abuse within the Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia
by jwleaks inarticle.
https://saysorry.org/2024/02/19/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-australian-national-redress-scheme/.
video.
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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool March 2024
by DerekMoors infor those still interested in lloyd's fall from grace, i made up a chart of my own.
april 2023 is when he put out his "things are bad" tin cup begging video, and he got a small surge to 592 on the 13th of that month.
i'm also using his all-time peak of 897 from november 2022.. for march, we're gonna say a modest -15, putting him at 352. i'm also curious as to when he might hit 300 and then 200. if he keeps up with an average of -20 every month, he'll be at less than 190 before the end of this year.. happy guessing everyone..
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jwleaks
From JW LEAKS
Having observed this pool, and other Lloyd-related matters for some time, and taking into consideration his attacks and defamation of me for no legitimate reason whatsoever, I would like to put myself down for the following prediction this month and every month hereafter (no doubt I will be correct at some point in time):
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