Posts by SophieG

i put this week's wt paragraph about disfellowshipping on my fb page and said how poor robert's family didn't even check to see whether he was dead or alive in 16 years and a friend of mine of the 'conscious class' commented about how unchristian she felt disfellowshipping to this degree is, and i agreed.. another friend, and uber-jw who has a host of illnesses and yet pioneers, who everytime she and her husband go to another congregation, if he's not appointed within three years they move to another and try for an appointment there - he used to be an elder and no one is willing to promote him again- replied to my thread.

now keep in mind she has a dfd son and she doesn't even know whether he is dead or alive, because she follows the wt to the tee.

she replied, among other things,with this:.

SophieG

Hi Julia.... Reaching out my hand to shake yours....

i felt compelled to respond to your post regarding what your JW Friend said especially the part about the blame game with Adam and Eve etc. what she fails to realize that even despite what they did Jehovah DID NOT SHUN them, neither did he tell future family members to shun their first parents.

I also second ScenicVewer's and Cantleave's statements.

Your friend's statement makes no sense. She actually makes Jehovah out to be unloving. Basically Jehovah is saying shun your CHILD and stay obedient to me and if your child never returns so be it. It's shows a lack of love on Jehovah and the parents part.

I know people who walked into a JC completely remorseful and bereft and was DfD anyway. No elder repeatedly warned them of the consequences. The persons made mistakes and wanted to make it right and STAY in the org. She has no idea what she is talking about.i know an elder who is dying emotionally because his child was DfD and is ill from alcoholism and he cannot help his child. That is wrong.

it's a good thing I am not on your FB page as I would have preceded to rip this person a new hole and dared her to come back with another response which would only make her look more ridiculous. These types of folks speak out their asses. She basically has told the world she will never speak to her child again because Jah wants her loyalty over her love for her child. Let her keep speaking as it only shows others how unbalanced they are.

this is what I would say to her: if your son kept beating up a kid and eventually paid the price and went to prison would you desert him and never visit him? So why if he is kicked out of the congregation would you totally desert him now? Jah is allowing a govt to let you have visitations with a child but revokes it if he errs within a group!

I wish you the best with her. I pity her child.

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My wife buys "50 shades of grey??? How shes changed since being inactive!!

by Witness 007 in

so this morning we flirt and i tell her what a "dirty girl" she is for buying those books...but i was thinking this from a girl who broke a frying pan on my car years ago because i didnt want to go to the meetings.

slowly i wore down that rock that she is with little facts and qoutes...i would not have stayed with her if she remained the fanatic witness she was....also she now swears like a sailor...i like that..

SophieG

Shades is hilarious. Yes badly written....but for some women it seems to broaden their imagination....

now me....mind always in the gutter!

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Winter is coming...

by Tiktaalik in

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it was only low 20s (c) here in southern australia.

after weeks of long hot days, it looks like the cold is on the way.

in an unrelated matter - it's only 11 days till game of thrones season 3 begins.

SophieG

OMG! I totally forgot about GOT starting back up!!! I need to order HBO! Thanks for the reminder!

Winter is coming and so is a Red Wedding!

Sophie

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Who of you ever lied on your field service reports?

by Julia Orwell in

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i've read a few people mention making up the figures for the field service reports, and i want to find out how common it is.

i never lied on my report.

sometimes i'd round up 15 minutes if i'd mentioned jw stuff to my brother that month, but that wasn't falsifying.

SophieG

Wow! When I read the comments it really brings home how CONDITIONED we all were.

I lied all the time. It got to be a joke because my SO was(/is/) a wonderful friend of mine.

1-5 hours meant: I aint doing nothing, just trying to staying regular.

5-10 hours: I was running my mouth about Jehovah on social media sites! LOL!

0 hours: I am about to blaze out of this mess. 0 hours FELT GOOD!!!!

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Don't e-mail DF'd family members - Congregation Reaction (WT 1/15/2013)

by 00DAD in

do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.

- w2013 1/15, p. 16, para.

in the congregation i attend, no one--and i mean no one--commented on the directive to not communicate with df'd family members by email.

SophieG

Aww... Thanks Tiki!

00DAD: Actually I shared my analogy with a JW relative who's an elder (...I don't give a flip at this point....) I could almost HEAR his brain pop when he thought about what I said. Of course he DID NOT directly answer the question!

I wish I could have had that conversation with him sitting in the room looking at his child. It's a FEELING moment. I want him to FEEL the conflict that he would experience if that situation ever happened. I want him to realize A POLICY is a game changer and something is wrong with it. I would love to hear him try to clarify his point. But we all know HE CAN'T. To understand the double standard he would have to admit that the WT stance is wrong!

Would a loving God EXPECT you to desert an imprisoned child? As a loving parent you'd still support your child despite what wrong he did. So why do the RULES of loving that child, supporting that child, CHANGE when they commit a "sin" according to JW policy?

Things that make you go: Hmmmm......

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Don't e-mail DF'd family members - Congregation Reaction (WT 1/15/2013)

by 00DAD in

do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.

- w2013 1/15, p. 16, para.

in the congregation i attend, no one--and i mean no one--commented on the directive to not communicate with df'd family members by email.

SophieG

I asked my JW friend this:

Your kid gets into a fight and accidentally kills the other person with a punch to the head. Your kid goes to prison but you don’t turn your back on him and shun him for life. As a matter of fact you visit him regularly.

However if that same kid sucessfully walked away from that fight but instead committed fornication with someone in a weak moment and now gets DFd... you’ll now shun him until he “turns around and comes back”. And if he does not, you’ll shun him for life!

OKAAAAY!!! RIIIGHT!

*edit* I apologize if I am this hijacking thread, but this DF policy makes my blood boil!

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Don't e-mail DF'd family members - Congregation Reaction (WT 1/15/2013)

by 00DAD in

do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail.

- w2013 1/15, p. 16, para.

in the congregation i attend, no one--and i mean no one--commented on the directive to not communicate with df'd family members by email.

SophieG

I suspect maybe the R&F are ignoring the admonition. I know my JW relatives speak to their DFd kids...

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Re: Will you attend the Memorial this year? Why? Why not?

by check in

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you all had some interesting thoughts on that jw memorial thread.

some of you mentioned that you are going so that you can set some sort of example.

i gather that some of you believe that by going and eating, you are somehow showing them they can (or should) do it too.. that really confuses me.

SophieG

I DON’T want to go. It’s like no-way, no desire. I don’t want to see those people. I feel like if I were to go then I would become like those people who show up once a year (no offense to those who do) and I feel I would be saying I still believe and honor this Memorial arrangement enough to turn up. Not going sends a message to my former JW friends and family that I am really no longer a part of this. I am done. I don’t need ANY of it and I don’t miss anything of that life. Last year was my last one!

I have not brought it up to my “faithful witness” mother. If she needs a ride I will give her one, but I think that would really un-nerve her or upset her. So I don’t think she will say anything.