A source connected to the family tells TMZ ... Paris "threw a fit" last night after she was told she couldn't go to a Marilyn Manson concert. We're told she ran into her room screaming and slammed the door. Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/05/paris-jackson-hospitalized-attempted-suicide-911-call/#ixzz2VNEH2THLSoooo...IF this is true I wonder if Her JW Grandmother, who probably think MM is Satan, said "NO" and this is her way of getting her way!
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Michael Jackson's daughter, Paris, suicide attempt
by RubaDub inwow, just reported that paris was rushed to the hospital with slit wrists.. i normally have a lot to say but this one is a very sad situation.. rub a dub.
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exJW Psychology 101--Keeping Your Cool While Fading
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inin an effort to get some help and hopefully help others, i'd like to start this thread about psychology, specifically starting with the subject of anger management.. .
personally, i don't have much of a temper.
what i do have, i've learned to control.
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SophieG
Great post Billy! I can certainly relate about anger management. In my case it’s best if I manage it because I can easily go from zero to rage and it is not a pretty sight to behold.LOL!
One of the things I think helps me is that in our conversations I keep "the organization" as an outside third person.
This is a bingo for me. Recently to my surprise, a few JW friends have been reaching out to me undoubtedly because my “language” has changed, mainly on social network sites. I actually had lunch with a good JW girl friend recently and during the conversation I talked about the organization in a way where she was quite receptive to what I was saying AND even agreed on certain points. I had to explain to her how the org has affected me and was able to stay away from doctrinal issues. It seems whenever I would raise these issues I would get angry because they could not grasp the points. Then that would lead to them getting angry, cult shutdown, and nothing would be accomplished.
I have seen it said here that trying to reach the person’s authentic self is a good way of helping people see the org for what it is. I don’t think I come across as an “angry apostate” to any of them. Just someone who has decided that the JW way of life does not work for me. That I am still the same person, JUST HAPPIER and better emotionally, and mentally. And they can SEE that.
I have learned speak up when it’s necessary and it’s always the tone and meaning behind the words that I feel really reach people. I decided as much as I love my family I can’t make them come out. Spouting off the falsehoods and injustices of the WTBS only shoves them further in. Living a good life, being at peace about things appears to raise their curiosity much better.
I am fading and it’s been going quite well. My goal is not get DF’d or DA’d either. I intend to walk away, live my life and keep my family ties at all costs .
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Has anyone listened to Reggae / Rastafarian religious music?
by sosoconfused ini am sure that none of you here are rastafarians and neither am i. i have just noticed however that their religious music is soo freaking moving!.
i guess after years of kingdom melodies that had absolutely no form of feeling in them and were pretty much some guy plucking piano keys anything would be better.
but i literally sit here listening to some of these and almost break down crying.. .
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Lived with reggae since birth! In my blood!
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Drinking at meetings / assemblies / conventions ... who's done it?
by HarryMac infor me .... 1).
last district convention after having 'read up' (took some family to it).. 2).
last 'meeting' to watch step-father-in-law finally get his and get disfellowshipped for molestation.. ...both were taking vodka shots in the bathroom.. i'm sure there's lots of good stories out there..
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I had a close friend who was sipping on straight vodka out of those metal coffee flasks at the DC...got busted and DFd for over-indulgence of alcohol.
Never in a million years did I ever consider doing that! DANG!!!
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Prince to Be Honored at Billboard Music Awards tonight
by orbison11 inprince is to receive the icon award at the awards tonight.. does anyone know if he is or is not a jw?.
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Shirley...I am referring to Prince's GF!
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Prince to Be Honored at Billboard Music Awards tonight
by orbison11 inprince is to receive the icon award at the awards tonight.. does anyone know if he is or is not a jw?.
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If he's still hanging with Larry Graham he's still probably in JW Land. Last time I heard his girlfriend was studying! If he were to wake up he'd put out one heck of an album.
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Off to the Doctor.
by LouBelle inin a couple of hours i'm going to the doctor - an intervention.
i don't want to be a burdon to my mother, she has her own life to lead with her own responsibilities.
i've always been able to take care of everything for myself.
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{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}
By the way, stop fighting the urge to cry. Crying is an enormous release!!!
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Off to the Doctor.
by LouBelle inin a couple of hours i'm going to the doctor - an intervention.
i don't want to be a burdon to my mother, she has her own life to lead with her own responsibilities.
i've always been able to take care of everything for myself.
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LouBelle, I've had 3 major depressive periods in my life and I was on anti-depressant meds for years. The cool thing is that if your doctor gets the right mix for you (dosage/strength/frequency…etc) it can really help to clear the cobwebs and get the chemical imbalance straightened out so that you can feel better and THINK more clearly. To me, when mine kicked in it felt like a fog was lifted off of my brain. It happened when I was out driving one day and my brain went; *POP*! It blew me away.
Changing my lifestyle (leaving JW-Land) and developing a deep desire to be happy and doing things with that intent, really helped me to eventually get off the medication. It was a stepping-stone for me, something to help me get to a point where my brain was calm enough to think about my life and make some serious changes. Medication does not SOLVE but it can HELP!
When you can think better, you can do better. You can learn to relegate your thoughts more and make them more positive.
I think you’re doing great. One day at a time…I am very excited for you!!! Looking forward to you bringing your fierceness back!
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Leaving...
by LouBelle ini just broke down in such an ugly cry at work.
walked outside and just sobbed my guts out.
i am so very unhappy here.
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Ok LB! Low plain of decision...it can only go up from here once the decision is made. Take it one step at a time. I look forward to the day you look back on what you've gone through, come here and post: "Did I do that?" WOW!
Hang in there girly.
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How long has this been going on!?
by Julia Orwell inok, i've suddenly got heaps of time for stuff, i can cuddle with my husband on weekend mornings, and i don't have to spend money on meeting clothes!
i've got all these great clothes i hardly wear!
we can make pancakes on saturday mornings!
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Julia isn’t it wonderful? I think it’s called having a LIFE! LOL!
A relative who was being snarky, (actually, I think he was a bit jealous) asked me: “Well what are you doing with all your time now that you aren’t going to meetings, service etc? All I hear is that you’re out doing brunch or happy hour!!!” I said “OMG!!….besides being HAPPY and drinking to it, I now have time to dedicate to MEANINGFUL things like volunteering in the community. I just don’t talk about it! It's so much fun and very rewarding. I am meeting new people and learing some fascinating things!!!”
I guess he was trying to make me feel like my life was empty without the JW stuff. WHATEVER!
I LOVE and do not feel one ounce of guilt for going to bed at a decent hour during the week, not having to drag my tired body out in service on Saturday morning, not having to FORCE myself to go to the meetings on Sunday! There are no more assemblies and conventions I have to run around for and painfully sit through! Hallelujah!
In under 2 years, I am happier, no longer on anti-depressants, 3 dress sizes smaller, my brain is clear! Ummm…I think I will stay right here and enjoy MY LIFE!
SO CHEERS TO YOU JULIA! It gets better every single day! CHEERS!