Posts by SophieG

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How many others, besides myself, that take AMBIEN? Done anything crazy while you were on it?

by PaintedToeNail in

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I can't take Ambien/Lunesta...does not do squat. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

However I use Seroquel for sleep and literally this is what it does to me:

My Brain: ...**going... going... going..gotta.... pay the cable bill.....thinking about the Universe***do di do di dooo***...hmmm i want some popcorn.....***do di do di dooo***...

(BRAIN SHUTS OFF).................wake up the next morning!

The first time I took it...I woke up to use the restroom and could not make it back to the bed...woke up in the hallway on the floor outside the bedroom door. Serious stuff...

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Lets pretend the JW's are right for a moment...

by puffthedragon in

don't worry, i'm not loosing my mind.

but whether you are christian, agnostic, atheist, thor-worshipper or otherwise, just pretend with me for a moment.. armageddon comes and wipes out wicked people.

there is a resurection and some kind of test and the ones that pass make it into the glorious new world.. how long would it last before a revolt?

SophieG

As you know, YHWH has any number of options to choose from to deliver his judgment, whether it's the slow, prolonged death (eg Adam: the poor fool apparently was thinking a day meant something other than a literal DAY! Instead, he lived to 960 years). Lot has been mentioned for instant judgment (pillar of salt), and those who touched the Ark of the Covenant (even when trying to keep it from hitting the ground!) were instantly struck dead by unknown mechanisms (heart attack? Stroke? Maybe the guy was so overwhelmed by believing he was in the presence of God and the strain of lifting, he experienced a heart attack? And instead of everyone standing around, someone should've started CPR?).

Point being, God has a veritable menu of choices from which to choose, and you do NOT want to make him do that!!!

King Solomon!!! ROFL! Touche.

But see... all these folks that are gung ho about Paradise are going to be traumatized by any of the above mentioned routes of instant retribution happneing on a regular basis.

Can you imagine waking up, going outside (and you look across your beautiful lawn with the lion cubs rolling around) and across the way is a pillar of salt that looks like Sister Sue frozen in a 'drop -it -like- it's-hot' pose...all because she was secretly playing hip-hop (that she hoarded pre-Armageddon) instead of the Kingdom Melodies....????

LOL!

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Lets pretend the JW's are right for a moment...

by puffthedragon in

don't worry, i'm not loosing my mind.

but whether you are christian, agnostic, atheist, thor-worshipper or otherwise, just pretend with me for a moment.. armageddon comes and wipes out wicked people.

there is a resurection and some kind of test and the ones that pass make it into the glorious new world.. how long would it last before a revolt?

SophieG

...Ok...people who don't toe the line...don't obey during the 100year reign get instantly killed...

I was always curious, will this be a vaporization by a bolt of lightning and we all see this person *POOF* be gone...

OR

will they just disappear (i.e. OH-OH sister so and so has not been seen since she drank too much wine at those Resurrection Parties)

OR

will there be a new 'justice' system where humans get to decide AGAIN.

I mean, we can really make up a bunch of crap about "Paradise"....

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JW Elder Talks About the Aurora Victims - This is Quite Sick

by God_Delusion in

hi guys & gals,.

the news about the aurora victims has spread worldwide and even in tiny cyprus do our hearts go out to the victims families.. .

unfortunately, the watchtower society doesn't see it that way.. .

SophieG

Absolutely not surprised!

I can't tell you how many times I've heard comments like this from the platform....HOWEVER you will never hear them refer to people like Candace Conti and how she was hurt as a child.

OT...but just shows the warped attitude of some folks: I recall a brother posting on a social site about the WTS 28mil judgement on the Conti case and saying: "OUCH!". Yes, "ouch" to the WTS being hit financially, but not "ouch" to the 9 year old who was abused. I mean what is wrong with these people, have they NO HEART?

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What scripture bothered your concious?

by stillhurts in

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i have been out 3 years.

i was baptized, never df'd.

ignored the 2 or 3 phone calls from the elders, and then they left me alone.

SophieG

I am sure I have many scriptures that have bothered my conscience, but I know one really bothered my heart, especially since I was living in an abusive JW marriage.

1 Corinthians 7:10-11

“To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.”

I would always try to picture in my mind being in the first century congregation hearing this said…while I could appreciate (regardless of the 3 absolutely scripturally contrived reasons why the WTS says you can separate from your mate) the provision to separate, I thought it was unfair. What if the marriage has been completely decimated by the abuse? Now the abused mate has to remain by themselves because going back to the abuser would be worse in their eyes? No hope for a chance at a new relationship where they may find happiness?….that struck me to the core…it’s still does and is a very sore spot…not sure how I feel about Paul…hmmm

Here is another: Luke 20:34-38

34 Jesus said to them: “The children of this system of things marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. 36 In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels, and they are God’s children by being children of the resurrection.

OK! Huuuuh? I remember as a young JW always thinking that my parents would be together in the New System (my father died). Then when I read this I think my brain exploded. I have read it many times and I still have issues with it. At some point, I guess I just accepted that Jehovah “will provide” and “fulfill the heart’s desire or every living creature”…

Which leads me to 2 scriptures I would DRIVE JWs nuts with…even elder friends (LOL)

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Who can know it?

Psalms 145: 16 You are opening your hand… And satisfying the desire of every living thing.

Now, I vaguely remember a talk where the brother inserted ‘ “heart’s” desire’ and I thought it was hilarious. I would drive folks nuts with the reasoning that if my heart is supposed to be treacherous then WHY would Jehovah satisfy ratchetness??? <Evil grin> Needless to say, most folks just shook their heads/rolled their eyes and walked away.

Matthew 24: 12 “ ….and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off …”

Sometimes I’d wonder if this was referring to the JWs. The verses proceeding and after this, I have always understood to refer to JWs…concerning persecution and preaching. Plus the only time “great” “number” (crowd) is ever used it was to specify JWs… being the ones to survive Armageddon. I always thought it was convenient that they turned it back on worldly folks at this particular scripture….hmmm

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New Article - Birthdays, Why the Watchtower stance is wrong

by jwfacts in

i have a new article at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/birthdays.php outlining why the watchtower stance against birthdays is wrong.

there have been a number of threads on jwn discussing this, and the article collates and summarises the points raised in these threads.

please feel free to point out any errors in grammar or logic.

SophieG

Great Article!

I tried to have a LOGICAL conversation with a sister once about these two words below and the definitions:

Acknowledge: show awareness of something: to respond to something such as a greeting or message to show it has been noticed or received

Celebrate: to observe (a day) or commemorate (an event) with ceremonies or festivities

I asked her if acknowledging a person’s day of birth is the same as celebrating it? Of course, she went into the blah-blah-blah rhetoric. These two words are vastly different. But, it’s like you are supposed to TOTALLY IGNORE that the person was born that day, that even breathing a word about it was displeasing to Jehovah! WOW! Needless to say, she stopped speaking to me after that because I guess I was “spiritually weak” for thinking out of the WT BOX. My soon to be ex has the same mindset and every year I would wish him a “Happy Birthday” just to watch him flip out!

I for one never got involved with celebrating birthdays but I would always acknowledge a person’s day of birth openly. Frankly the way I see it is that I am grateful that the person was here, born ON THAT DAY, and in my life and I wanted to acknowledge that. Even my die hard JW mom, would call me on my Bday and acknowledge it!

While for me celebrating makes me uncomfy...too much attention on me...LOL!!! know that when I turned 40 I totally "celebrated" the milestone in my own way...approaching 50 things may change... I may just go all out!!!

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses in Denial?

by God_Delusion in

howdy guys & gals,.

do you remember the good old days on here when there were trolls aplenty?

it's such a shame those days are behind us.

SophieG

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Newbie

by SophieG in

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Newbie

by SophieG in

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Hey guys!

I am not ignoring all your welcomes…Thank you so much for the warmth….I am still trying to get used to the board and the amount of times I can post.

Yes, my husband is the abusive spouse. I won’t say much about it because I don’t want to bring too much attention to myself. Once the divorce proceedings start all HELL will break lose as he will try to tear me down and drag me to the elders. Not happening! Me serving him papers at the hall/service is just up my alley of setting the record straight. While he yaps to everyone about me, I have stayed silent, so I look like the baddie…I really don’t give a rats patootie what anyone thinks anyway!

I think that there are many people who want to leave the org but are tied to family and friends, obligation and FEAR. I have a dear friend who is an elder and we have had many honest conversations about the reality of life and the fabrication and hold that the truth has on us. He is such a giver and the elder that everyone turns to. But I see the burden in his face and I can’t say anything to him. He will have to “shipwreck” his faith in THE SOCIETY all on his own.

I have had sisters come up to me at and said: thank you for being you and being real. They have seen me separate from my nut job JW don’t-wannabe-head many times and I still held my head high in the cong. My disappearance will cause some to think and so I don’t say anything to influence them. As someone who embraces all types of people and has tons of friends in the Org, my leaving will cause them to wonder: “Why did she do it?” I have always been an upfront person, open in speech and thought, level-headed and logical, so it will give thought to pause. I have friends that I KNOW will leave one day…they display that same frustration with trying to toe the line, asking questions, dealing with the folks who are self-righteous who should know better, doctrine that is CRAAP….out spoken to ME in private about things they don’t understand…but the CONTROL is so great they have not reached the point of JUMP!

So for now, I just continue to show them how truly HAPPY I am and that life has been really good since I decided to shake this control off me.

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Newbie

by SophieG in

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OK! SO here are some of my pet-peeves I have developed over the years:

That blasted Revelation Climax book! Studied it 4 times (?) and ended up wondering WHO was on drugs… was it John or the WTS!!! After the 3rd study I was convinced that most of it was tripe and scriptural porn!

The worship of COs/DOs/GB. Um…there are just MEN, but yet the friends idolize them. I was never impressed and I made sure they knew. I never introduced myself to the last CO and told a brother I straight up did not like him.

Oohh the people who like to get personal about other folks business in their comments…ask me if I would not turn my head and look at them like: REALLY? You really WENT THERE!?!

Brothers who mistakenly think they can talk to sisters any old kinda way because they are a brother. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH HEADSHIP EXERCISED WITH LOVE AND RESPECT…I craved for it, but let me tell you something…it did not matter, brother, MS, elder- if you talk to me like I am your servant…you get a neck-roll!!!....LOL!

The 3 grounds for separation. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! No scriptural basis whatsoever, to keep abused spouses in bondage. Oh and telling me, the abused spouse that I have no grounds for divorce and asking what me what am I going to do. Me: Blink*Blink*: Get grounds dummy! I mean really…I am dead serious about not staying with this joker….do you not understand I am not afraid to face the consequences for my actions!?! The only person I live in fear of is Jehovah…wait…DOES HE REALLY EXIST SINCE MY BELIEF SYSTEM HAS BEEN SHOT?

Disfellowshipping. Sigh…ok…I slowly learned to ignore it. Frankly, questioning my loyalty to Jehovah (Oh wait…oh…see above) is not fair. I love my friends/family who were DFd…the LAST thing I want to do is cut off communication. The NORMAL thing to do IS TO TALK TO THEM…if you want them back. The rebel that I am, if I saw a DFd person I would say: hello. It’s cruel to act like a person is a leper…cross the road…avoid them. I guess I am going to burn in hell….OH WAIT! HA! NO HELL!

My husband telling me that Jehovah will still consider us married in the New System. Me telling him to tell Jehovah I want a pretty pink fireball at Armageddon, cuz if I have to be married to him, I rather be bird food.

Telling folks to simplify and preach more so that they don’t have decent jobs with health insurance and when they get ill I am asked to donate my 401K to assist them. While I feel their pain…UM NO!

Telling folks not to go to college….BUUUT elder so and so’s kids get shipped out to Ivy Leagues.

And drumroll: SPARLOCK! OMG! Did they really go there??? How can JW parents not SEE the clear message is thought/behavior control, no freedom of choice..oh..wait…next a discourse on not taking your kids to Disneyland is coming…wait for it…wait for it…

SIGH…I got more…but this is kinda getting LOOONG!!!! LOLOL!!!

SG