quoted below is the testimony of an ex-jw (one of the posters here) who faced the draft in the '60s.
notice the form of "alternative service" that he would've been required to do had he been drafted.
not civilian, but as one who would work in a military hospital ... which would be aiding the war effort -- a breach of one's neutrality.. .
Hey Rick, you're not angry with me are you? Perhaps you want to kill me too?
Your intelligence keeps on amazing me. It's not about killing anything but it is about fighting for the freedom which we all posses. So everytime you walk outside and go someplace just don't forget those who have and continue to make that possible.
-Rick
quoted below is the testimony of an ex-jw (one of the posters here) who faced the draft in the '60s.
notice the form of "alternative service" that he would've been required to do had he been drafted.
not civilian, but as one who would work in a military hospital ... which would be aiding the war effort -- a breach of one's neutrality.. .
rmayer32
Were you ever a JW? If not, then go the hell away!
Well jackass guess what?? I was a JW a lot longer then I'd like to admit.. close to 19 years worth of being a JW in fact. If anyone needs to go the hell away it's your sorry ass, and I think maybe you need to go to Iraq and let Saddam use you as his bitch so maybe you'll understand why the defense of this country is a touchy subject.
But until then all I can say to you is
-Rick
quoted below is the testimony of an ex-jw (one of the posters here) who faced the draft in the '60s.
notice the form of "alternative service" that he would've been required to do had he been drafted.
not civilian, but as one who would work in a military hospital ... which would be aiding the war effort -- a breach of one's neutrality.. .
Go find him, and I'll try dumb ass. But, then again I figure he'd be just as hardheaded as you are right now, so what would be the use.
The same people that allow you to be free are the ones out there finding that sorry sonofabitch right now. If it wasn't for those same people that same Bin Laden guy would have your ass wearing a long beard and forcing you to pray to Allah every night of your damn life.
Hence don't say nothing about anyone out there defending this country when it allows you to be a JW, an american and allows you the freedom to even post on this board.
-Rick
quoted below is the testimony of an ex-jw (one of the posters here) who faced the draft in the '60s.
notice the form of "alternative service" that he would've been required to do had he been drafted.
not civilian, but as one who would work in a military hospital ... which would be aiding the war effort -- a breach of one's neutrality.. .
Being a Gulf War vet and a 10 year former Active Duty type of guy, I have to say that anyone who would not fight for the country which makes them free and refuses even an easy and safe bullshit alternate service needs to go lease themselves a house in a 3rd world country someplace and live where they don't even have the freedom to take a piss without asking the government for permission. Then come back and tell me you won't put on that uniform.
This country is free for a reason and the only thing the WT ever did was get people sent to prison when they should have been out there defending their country.
did you ever get busted for something that you really did do when you were a dub and get hauled in, just to sit there and deny what you were brought in for?
and then feel really good and not quilty when you pulled it off because they believed you?
I was busted for smoking once as well when someone supposedly seen me do it, I told them (since I'd been in for this before) that it just couldn't have been me as I haven't touched that stuff since the last time I talked to you guys. Well they dropped it and I went to the parking lot, got in my car and lit a cigarette and drove home..LOL Some holy spirit directed inquisition that was!
-Rick
well i finally ordered crisis of conscience.
even though i've been da'd since 1989 the truth is that i always considered it to still be the truth up until a couple of years ago when i started researching more through sites like this.
i never got around to getting my hands on that book though, and now can't wait until it arrives.
Thanks Noi
It does make you think. Just makes me glad to be completely free even though I've been "organization" free for so long
well i finally ordered crisis of conscience.
even though i've been da'd since 1989 the truth is that i always considered it to still be the truth up until a couple of years ago when i started researching more through sites like this.
i never got around to getting my hands on that book though, and now can't wait until it arrives.
LOL, Lisa!
Thanks though, maybe one of these days I'll scan one of them old Navy pics and send ya.. Haven't tried to squeeze into that outfit in 4 years now..
yrs2long,
I know what you mean about mental/emotional connections to them, it's a shame. I look forward to getting this book and reading it very quickly most likely.
-Rick
ok, the good news is i'm on vacation: a time when i should just relax, have fun, do things i like to do when i want to do them, stay up all night, sleep all day, whatever.
but, i picked of all times to *try* to quit smoking.
i used to smoke like only when i was drinking, or if i had a really bad day at work, but lately due to a stupid ass man in my life and my family fighting, i have been smoking more than i should.
I fought the habit for years.. and even then it took me until last year to finally quit.. Mind you I started quitting in 1999..LOL Patches, gum, none of it worked.. All I would do is torture myself with the thought of a cigarette until of course I lit it up took one drag and there wasn't anything left but the filter..LOL
Good luck in quitting it. It's tough but worth it:)
-Rick
i'm extatic .
my husband is stepping down as an elder tomorrow.
how do you guys think that will go?
Congrats to your husband Prisila!
i am not speaking of 'secret' in the sense that no one knows this, but in the sense of the phrase 'open secret' where no one wants to talk about something that is known and true, but makes people uncomfortable.
kind of like the 'crazy aunt' that lived in a room in the finished attic.
everyone knew she was there, but no one wanted to talk about her being there.. well, the open secret about race relations in the usa, is that all of us working class folks have been used against each other by the elite from the earliest history of this country.
Very interesting and well put.
-Rick
