todays newspapers are full of the le pen story.
much concern is being voiced that right-wing organisations will ride on this story to make their own agendas more widely known, ie, send all the immigrants back home, britain for the british, sod off everyone else!.
now i personally love different cultures.
No way does that make you a racist. One thing I loved about being in the U.S. Navy was going all over the world and seeing different countries and enjoying their customs and everything.
Far as coming into a country and not putting anything back into it I understand where you are coming from wholeheartedly as the U.S. sees plenty of that crapp. I don't like it however don't view myself as a racist either..
-Rick
Welcome SexKitten, very interesting Name to say the least
-Rick
it is very difficult for normal, well-adjusted people to understand why some take hard drugs.
it is painful to watch healthy men and women eaten away by the chemicals that infest them.
eventually, they become empty shells of their former selves, dying both metaphorically and literally.. it is even harder to understand why some who have managed to become clean of drugs, who have seen the degradation that it causes and know that it is a blind alley, who then return to that seedy underworld and begin once again to pollute themselves.. there must be a reason.
I think the only people who return to it are those who never really understood that it wasn't the truth. These ones left the Org for other reasons but they were always troubled by their consciences.
I certainly fell under that category for a long, long time. Though I never did end up going back had things or circumstances been a bit different or had I not found out the truth behind the truth it would have probably been a matter of time before I did it.
-Rick
before i came into this chat room , lol , i was a full fledge jw for lifer.
i met a few nice folks in the "real" jw chat room and met a few in person( horrors).
but let me tell you the intellectual conversations left alot to be desired.
I think the numbers being "few" in the end should be their membership. It seems that the number of people df'd, da'd, and that just flat out don't want anything to do with them because they view them as a cult is probably quite huge
-Rick
did you ever stop feeling constantly guilty while you were in the org?
i never did, no matter how much i was doing as far as field service & meeting attendance it never felt like enough.
i never felt like i was doing enough, ever; even though we were at all of the meetings faithfully, with three young children, which was no easy task.. .
Guilt was something I always felt. I was young (14) when I got baptised and got out when I was 18. Thing is the reason I got out had nothing to do with not believing it was the truth, it was simply that I thought I did the honorable thing because I wasn't "Living my life in a way Jehovah approved". While in though I was always trying to do more and more all the time because it was obviously expected of you. I had numerous elders and M. servants always tell me I was well on my way to becoming one of the younger M. servants which at the time I think the age requirment for that was 19. Every summer I would Aux Pioneer and then feel like I should be putting in more and more hours then even required.
Needless to say even though I was still brainwashed at the time I da'd myself the relief of not having to live up to impossible expectations was tremendous!
well i finally ordered crisis of conscience.
even though i've been da'd since 1989 the truth is that i always considered it to still be the truth up until a couple of years ago when i started researching more through sites like this.
i never got around to getting my hands on that book though, and now can't wait until it arrives.
Well I finally ordered Crisis of Conscience. Even though I've been DA'd since 1989 the truth is that I always considered it to still be the truth up until a couple of years ago when I started researching more through sites like this. I never got around to getting my hands on that book though, and now can't wait until it arrives.
Funny though how the mind control thing can work even over 10 years after you're out though. Thanks to the internet though I was finally able to de-program myself. Hopefully any doubters and lurkers out there will take the time to do the research for themselves much sooner then I did so as not to walk around for a good 11 years thinking that you're just doomed if you don't go back.
-Rick
i remember several times in the past knocking on doors in the ministry and some bodacious babe would answer the door naked, semi-naked, or extremly suggestively dressed.
how many of you guys/gals has this happened to?.
i think i'm going to answer the door naked the next time some witness sisters show up at my front door....lol i can't wait.
MAYER32 -- had babes built like me answered their doors you would have definately left the ORG a whole sooner in life!!!!!
Queenie, you're too funny!!!:)
who's hank, and why would i want to kiss his ass?".
me: "do you kiss hank's ass often?".
john: "well no, you don't actually get the money until you leave town.".
That is awesome!
my former best friend was murdered this morning in oregon.
apparently, she has been dating a "worldly" man for about a year now.
she went to visit him in oregon.
That is terrible, My condolences to you on your loss
the publication and distribution of bibles and bible literature by jehovah's witnesses is part of a worldwide bible educational work that is supported by voluntary donations.. .
emphasis added.
interesting statement just above the picture of the new world translation.. i never thought about it, but if the watchtower is so interested in worldwide bible education, then why don't they have an online version of the nwt?.
Having been out since 1989 how do they work the "donation" thing nowasdays???
