wasasister,
Do you know Russell Paravecchio? Just wondering.
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Posts by RN
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10My trip to the dentist
by Mulan infor those who wonder why on earth i am writing about this, mimilly had a thread on wednesday about being afraid at the dentist.
i contributed and got lots of warm fuzzy help.
i'm not the only one with an unreasonable fear of dental work.
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Shame on You Jehovah's Witness Parents
by professor inif you are a jehovah's witness parent i would like to say something to you.. shame on you!.
shame on you for belonging to an organization of men who teach you that your children and your family should be less important to you than obeying their words, just because they claim to speak for god.
shame on you for not remembering that loving and caring for your family should be your first priority.
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I'm not so sure that it is so black and white. Yes, parents need to take and accept responsibility, but were not exactly talking about clear thinking people here. I used to be angry with my own parents, especially my mother for exposing me to this terrible religion and all the baggage that goes along with it. I believe we must take into consideration the set of circumstance(s) that made our parents suscepible to being sucked into Watchtowerdom. Both of my parents, particularly my mom were victims of their own childhoods long before they were victims of the WTS. That is a huge issue with those who join as adults. I feel more angry at the WTS for taking advantage of my mom's mental/emotional makeup. But that is after all, the formula for their success. In retrospect, mom regrets not searching more deeply and not expressing her doubts and reservations when they began to surface. It took a long time for her to be able to express that to me. You cannot disregard what Celtic says about the depth of the programming being so complete and they are so emotionally disconnected from the real world, that many are just unable to respond in a normal fashion when confronted with the more serious wrongs of the organization.
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?? about GB member...
by RN indoes anyone know anything about gb member m. stephen lett??
i have often wondered if his parents were the special pioneer couple that first studied with my family in the early seventies, mark and jean lett.
they were from texas, and at least one (if not both) of their sons, steve and tim, were at bethel in the early 1970's.
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Yes, I've seen the bio and the dates of Bethel service are in the correct time frame. I was hoping someone might have a little info on his family so I could nail down whether there is a connection or not. I was only 9 or 10 when I met "Steve Lett" and his wife and I cannot remember her name.
As best as I can remember, Mark and Jean Lett were from Texas. Their Special Pioneer assignment in the early seventies was in northwestern Arkansas (Ozark, Clarksville) By the late seventies they were in the Mobile, AL area and I believe Jean, now widowed, still lives in that area.
Like I told my brother, this falls into the interesting but not vital to life on the planet category...it's just something I'd like to know.
Thanks for the response--RN
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?? about GB member...
by RN indoes anyone know anything about gb member m. stephen lett??
i have often wondered if his parents were the special pioneer couple that first studied with my family in the early seventies, mark and jean lett.
they were from texas, and at least one (if not both) of their sons, steve and tim, were at bethel in the early 1970's.
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Does anyone know anything about GB member M. Stephen Lett?? I have often wondered if his parents were the Special Pioneer couple that first studied with my family in the early seventies, Mark and Jean Lett. They were from Texas, and at least one (if not both) of their sons, Steve and Tim, were at Bethel in the early 1970's.
Just very curious.....
RN
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Where are they now?
by RunningMan inthere has been a fair bit of discussion regarding witness kids, and whether they stay in the organization or leave.
looking around me at the the dc this weekend, i began to wonder whatever happened to my old group.
when i was younger, i grew up in a congregation that had a lot of kids.
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Running Man,
This is something I think of from time to time. I could quickly make a list of 17 people (myself and husband included).
10 of those 17 are DF/DA/ or walk aways (2 of this number are never baptized walkaways)
4 are active but I suspect shakey
3 are active/strong
On a side note, one of my friends who is DF (20+years) has what I call "Out but In Syndrome", physically she may be out but mentally she's as in a ever!!! In fact, she is currently shunning me! hehe
Interesting post, thanks
Lori
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Arrogance at it's Best
by HoChiMin inarrogance at it's best .
most members of jehovah's witnesses will tell you "once a baptized witness always a witness" there is no way out .
they most likely are referring to the so called knowledge of there "truth" as if the knowledge binds you forever to their rules.
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HomeButHiding,
May I respectfully suggest that you read, "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan.
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What was your dream?
by ashitaka indid being a witness hurt, hamper, or help your dreams?
did you want to be a dancer?
an actor?
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Dreams?? Growing up a JW and being a girl, I was never expected to be much. School was a necessary evil and I was expected to do my best, but I was never encouraged to excel. I was the classic underachiever. I took vocational education courses, (they were practical) and expected that I would graduate and work at some type of clerical job, get married and have children. You know, be a good dub. I thought that teaching or working in the medical field would be interesting, but figured I wasn't smart enough to complete any of the higher level schooling I would need to work in any of the related fields. Besides college was a no-no. So what was the point of dwelling on it.
Well, I did exactly what was expected of me. I worked at clerical/secreterial jobs, got married and had children. Then the unthinkable happened. My son was diagnosed with lymphoma and two days later, ataxia-telangiectasia ( a rare genetic disorder). Kids with AT usually live into their late teens/early twenties, but they are sick kids. I enrolled in community college with the intent of applying to Nursing School, 9 months after his diagnosis. My son was going to need long term care and I wanted the knowledge base and skill set needed to provide it. (I am, if nothing else, practical.) Unfortunately, he died before I entered the nursing program but I continued on. My husband and I basically said "up yours" to anyone in the congregation who dared question what I was doing.
Ten years ago this July, I sat for the Nursing Boards. I love the work that I do, it is both professionally and personally fulfilling. So I guess I got to fulfill a dream that I didn't even know I had.
Lisa-- having your RN will open up a lot more opportunities for you--if you want it go for it.
For everyone else--the only time it's too late to go for what you want is when your dead. You only get one shot at this life, make the best of it.
Lori
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Name some must have rock records
by Leander ini've spent a lot of time on allmusic.com and it amazes me how much nirvana is mentioned when the reviewers rate other albums.
so its a no brainer that nirvana's work should probably have a place in every rock collection, but what are some other albums every rock fan should listen to if not own.
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Alot of great music posted here, but I can't believe no one listed "It's A Beautiful Day"! "White Bird", "The Girl with no Eyes" Classic!!
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Penn Jilette on Religion
by RN inthis past monday, bill maher had penn jilette (of penn & teller) on his show, "pollitically incorrect with bill maher".
penn had the following to say about religion:.
penn: when people over 7 years old have imaginary friends, there's going to be trouble.. it doesn't matter who their imaginary friend is, if they go to prison or they follow the abrahamic religions, .
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This past Monday, Bill Maher had Penn Jilette (of Penn & Teller) on his show, "Pollitically Incorrect with Bill Maher".
Penn had the following to say about religion:
Penn: When people over 7 years old have imaginary friends, there's going to be trouble.
It doesn't matter who their imaginary friend is, if they go to prison or they follow the Abrahamic religions,
they're going to be killing somebody. It's just a really dangerous thing to have people believe in things
that they can't prove.
Bill: Oh, I see what you're saying.
I thought you were talking about President Bush.
Penn: People that say, "I am doing this on faith," whether that faith is, no matter what that faith is,
when it's not based on love of people and humanity, there's gonna be trouble.
If you want to make airplanes safe, just make everyone that gets on the airplane
eat some bacon and touch a penis and everything gets solved.
Kinsman & I just cracked up!! We're really going to miss Bill Maher.
RN
See the entire transcript here at www.infidels.org/wire/index
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When JW's Can't Pigeon Hole A Situation....
by Englishman in......it puts them into a state of disequilibrium.. take, for example, the case of someone who has been disfellowshipped from the organisation.
heads will nod knowingly and wisely if that person should:.
do drugs.. become alcoholic.. become promiscuous.. such is the price paid for someone who "turns his back on jehovah".
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Hi All,
My husband and I both went back to school and earned degrees prior to leaving the JW's. After graduation, our financial situation steadly improved. I suppose Jah had decided to bless us in spite of the fact that we weren't that consistent with meeting/service participation!
Now that were out, I have no doubt that our successes are being attributed to Satan. It's kind of a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" thinking.
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