Exactly what I've done also. It works!!! There is also a letter floating around (I used to have it) that is usable when they come knocking on your door asking you to attend a judicial committee meeting. If this letter is delivered registered to them, it guarantees they won't announce ANYTHING, and ties their hands. Basically, it puts YOU in control, instead of them. I highly recommend it. There's nothing like making the elders squirm instead of it being the other way around!
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Call 911-Fire-Fire -don't do it!
by spectromize infor all of you who are thinking about da or df, my advice is don't do it.
you are falling into a trap that the wt has set for any who disagree with them.
wouldn't it be much more productive if everyone who left, held on to their status even if they didn't go to the hall and exposed some of the bull****t ?.
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Disassociated
by Scorpion init has been an experience to say the least.
i accepted eagerly the teachings of the watchower bible and tract society over the last 7 years.
i have been a dedicated pioneer for four of those years.
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SC, glad to see you are adjusting well. Please give our best to your wife and we hope she, too, will join us someday and make new friends to fill the void that losing old friends leaves. I look forward to hearing how you're doing.
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Demon-possessed inanimate objects
by Dubby infor years i heard stories that certain items in the home could be demon-possessed.
i was told to be careful of items bought at garage sales because we didn't know their origin, or who or what they were used for.. did we own a ouija board before becoming a witness?
could it be that items like these were creating misfortune?
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I often wondered the same thing, if I just wasn't worth Satan's bother! LOL Several of the JW's in our congregation had "Demon stories". I think it is just part and parcel of the rampant paranoia fostered by the GB to keep the lemmings in line.
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Crisis With Singles and Single Parents Looming?
by Pathofthorns inlikely we've all noticed that on the two major jw discussion forums the most active forums are the "singles or dating" forums.. it would appear that there is an increasingly large number of single parents appearing in the congregations these days for whatever reason.. i admire these ones for the effort they put forth to bring their children up taking on the role of both parents.
from many of their comments in the "singles " forums, it appears many find being a single parent an extreme liability in "the truth" as far as finding a mate goes.
i wonder if jw culture has something to do with how these ones are viewed as prospective marriage mates vs. the mentality in the "world".. as far the single people go, there appears to be almost a certain desperation to get married, further scaring off potential mates.
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What a good meaty subject to sink ones teeth into! I was at first, a married parent in the truth, but married to an unbeliever. That was pretty rough, as he was an abusive alcoholic. And you know the rule, "If they don't beat you half to death, you have to stay." Well, my ex was MENTALLY abusive. And sometimes that can be far worse. When the pain became too great, I left despite being told I had to stay, and thus became spiritually "marked".
What was even worse, my ex and I were separated for four years before divorcing, and he knew I could not be "free" until he committed adultery, hence, being emotionally abusive, he wasn't about to do it! So there I was, struggling to support three children on a less than high school education (at that time) with very little help, my mother was dying of cancer, and the friends were telling me I was "bad" for leaving my abusive mate. I wasn't good enough, no matter WHICH way I chose to turn.
Single parents in the "Truth" are made to be very lonely, as they are never invited to the couples' homes since they don't fit in, and they are not allowed to be with "worldly" friends without being shunned. So it is an extremely lonely position to be in. A huge struggle and you never fit into any niche.
Finally, I'd had enough. I took things into my own hands, because OBVIOUSLY, Jehovah certainly wasn't going to help. I told my ex that I would give him just 30 days to make up his mind, or I would move back home. I got divorce papers in a week. Then after the divorce, when I had a settlement and enough money to buy a home, I did so and started building up my own life!
I was sooooo lonely though, and knew I'd never be good enough for a brother, (not that there were any to be had!) because I was a single mom with three kids and divorced. At 33, I wasn't willing to spend the rest of my life that way. Finally, after 6 years of loneliness, I decided to date a "worldly" man. I was disfellowshipped for uncleanness, just because I was DATING this guy and couldn't prove that we hadn't had sex. We hadn't, but that was beside the point. I couldn't PROVE it.
It was a vicious cycle of emotional abuse. To this day I don't think I've recovered, and I honestly don't think I ever will. I did get reinstated, but by that time I was starting to put two and two together, and realized that not only was the Truth not the truth, but that it was emotionally damaging as well. That's when I left. And I won't go back. Ever.
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Purgatory, Limbo or the Twilight Comfort Zone
by SolidSender inno offence meant but is this place some kind of waystation inhabited by beings neither in nor out of the lie?
this is not a criticism just an observation.
i know it can take time to make up your mind-solidsender
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Good thread here. Frenchy, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head regarding my thoughts and feelings about what I got from the religion and what I wanted. It was a dream, and it was VERY hard to wake up from it and find it was pure illusion. Thanks for the good posts.
This is a very good group, thoughtful and kind. I like the way you can discuss things here and feel safe to do so.RCAT
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The Beginning of the End
by SolidSender ini've got my own opinion on this but i'm very interested to hear from anyone who has viewpoints on what impact they think the internet is going to have on the wtbs say over the next 5 - 10 years.-solidsender
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I honestly think Frenchy's right, about their resiliency. I don't think the entire tower will fall, I just think they will somehow become mainstream, albeit slowly then their followers would like to see. And yes, they will keep marching to the endless ending. Sigh...
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Prophetic errors and other ???
by Seven indoes anyone know of other sites where one can ask questions about the society's prophetic errors and other doctrinal objections?
i have so many questions and don't wish to be troubled with triggered responses and other aggrevations.. thanks in advance,.
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Oops, sorry Zep. You'd already posted Alan's site! Didn't mean to double post it.
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Prophetic errors and other ???
by Seven indoes anyone know of other sites where one can ask questions about the society's prophetic errors and other doctrinal objections?
i have so many questions and don't wish to be troubled with triggered responses and other aggrevations.. thanks in advance,.
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Here are a couple of good ones, also.
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The Beginning of the End
by SolidSender ini've got my own opinion on this but i'm very interested to hear from anyone who has viewpoints on what impact they think the internet is going to have on the wtbs say over the next 5 - 10 years.-solidsender
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Yes, I have to admit, that even though I was considered "weak" in the truth, back in 96, before I got onto the net in 1997, I would still have defended it to my death as the "Truth" and thought I just must not be good enough for it. Once I typed in Jehovah's Witnesses into a search engine, that was all she wrote. I first found H20, and wrote to Liberal Elder, thinking he was a real elder and would tell me I would be ok, that what I thought I was seeing, I wasn't seeing! LOL He never even wrote me back. I wasn't worth the bother.
Then, I found the Blood site. I printed the entire thing PLUS the flock book. Took them home and read them, and started to realize that the truth was a lie, a very BIG lie. I then went and bought a copy of Crisis of Conscience at the local "Christian" book outlet. What I read there solidified all my suspicions into the REAL truth, that the WTBTS had lied and contrived to control my mind. That I had given my marriage up, my family up, my education up, my HAPPINESS up for a big fat lie that would never come true.
You bet the internet will work. All you have to do is get someone to type those two words into a search engine, and that's all it takes.
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ATTENTION Lurking Jehovah's Witnesses.
by Martini indear fellow jw's,.
visiting this board and briefly viewing some of the comments here your probably wondering if this db is pro or anti-jw.. your probably asking yourself is this board for active, 'loyal' jehovah's witnesses?.
i'm not sure i can speak on behalf of the posters at this db, however from my perspective i will "try" to set this matter straight for you.. are those posting here current jw's or are they hiding that they are apostates?.
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I agree with all these posts. Thanks for the good thread, Martini. I have a good friend who's a regular meeting attender. And even HE refers to himself as a bit of a rebel, as he doesn't agree with the things Men have done in the name of God. He just isn't convinced that because they do these things, it's possibly not the true religion. Or is there even a "true" religion?
But Martini, I really think you hit the nail on the head. Thanks for the good post.
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