Here in Australia, it is the same as it was in the USA. You pay for the literature at the KH and whatever you get for donations in the FS you put into the contribution box too. Double payment all the way. Hmmm.. what was that scripture in the Bible about being greedy?
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Donations for Literature?
by Andyman ini know that there is a variety of posters here from different places.
i have seen some from canada, the u.s., and australia, and england.
so i wanted to ask about the "donation" arrangement for literature.. somebody in another thread mentioned the "double" payment thing.
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About the 89 WT quote.
by Xandit infrenchy, i actually read the article in the 89 watchtower the following quote comes from.. w89 9/1 19 remaining organized for survival into the millennium.
"7 only jehovahs witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the supreme organizer, have any scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by satan the devil.".
reading the article it appears to me that the statement, pretty direct as i said in one of my other posts, is based on the understanding of the status of sheep and goats at that time.
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Good points. All of you.. and Oh so true. This line of teaching is GUARANTEED to leave you feeling like God is not love, he's a GOD-MONSTER.
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Thanks !
by Simon inhi.
i just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone that is supporting this forum by participating in it and would like to encourage any visitors who may be lurking to stop lurking and join in !
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Hey Frenchy! Seeing you topless would be quite a treat! Now bring everyone down for a vacation.
Wolfgang says with all my friends and relatives who are planning on flying down here for a holiday, we'll have to buy another house to hold them all! LOL Still, it would be well worth it. This place is ALREADY a paradise! -
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JW preaching work to end in the 20th Century
by Scorpion inpage 12 of the january 1, 1989 wt magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".
i take this as subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d., or should have come by now.. i find it interesting that the bound volume reprint has the wording changed to read, " a work that would be completed in our day.".
does anyone know why the change?
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I well remember that article too. Many of the "predictions" of the past 30 years I have seen. And then the Society bends, twists, and turns their words to conform to their blinking light. Too bad for them that people like you kept the original mags, Frenchy, instead of just keeping the altered bound volumes!
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Thanks !
by Simon inhi.
i just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone that is supporting this forum by participating in it and would like to encourage any visitors who may be lurking to stop lurking and join in !
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Roamingfeline
Hey Waiting,
American's only speak one language because everyone imitates THEM! lol
Actually, it is an entirely different culture down here. You just have to see it for yourself. The beaches are absolutely lovely!
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JW preaching work to end in the 20th Century
by Scorpion inpage 12 of the january 1, 1989 wt magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".
i take this as subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d., or should have come by now.. i find it interesting that the bound volume reprint has the wording changed to read, " a work that would be completed in our day.".
does anyone know why the change?
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Roamingfeline
ROFL!!! Isn't the reason obvious? But I'm sure Friend can enlighten us with a well convoluted story so as to completely cloud the issue.
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The faithful slave cares about our taxes
by Maxee inthis link has a scan of a printed by the society brochure planned giving to benefit the kingdom.
the faithful and discreet slave has a fund to enable us to contribute stocks and saving to the kingdom preaching work whilst both we and them enjoytaxation benefits.or if we want to bequest our properties etc to the preaching work via this fund.
we can get it out before hand if we want too.
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Dubby, you are spot on!!! Why do they need MORE money and property? They are worth BILLIONS already!!! And yes, I have seen the website for car sales. It is legitimate. It's just getting more and more disgusting, folks.
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Conscience Issues?
by Andyman inok frenchy, you asked for it you got it!.
my pet issue is the conscience thing.
just whos' conscience are they talking about when they us this phrase "it's a conscience issue"?.
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Yes, Andyman. I do have an opinion, as usual!
It is a "collective conscience" issue. It depends on your congregation's collective conscience, meaning what type of elders you have, and what type of publishers. And also how they "interpret" the writings of the Society at any given time. It varies from KHall to KHall. What, you say? No unity and like minds? You GOT IT!
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My Journey
by Frenchy ini suppose we all think of ourselves as unique and we are in so many ways.
what i fail to realize, i guess, is that we are far more alike than unique.
every now and then i will reveal some little fear or quirk or dream that i have only to find out that someone else has experienced the same thing!
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Dear Frenchy,
You are the type of person I always respected as an elder. It is apparent that you CARE. And if you still believe in a God, as most do even when they leave the Organization,(btw, I'm not sure I am one of them, to be honest) you must know that he cares about you because you have love for others. It is apparent in the things you say.
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My Journey
by Frenchy ini suppose we all think of ourselves as unique and we are in so many ways.
what i fail to realize, i guess, is that we are far more alike than unique.
every now and then i will reveal some little fear or quirk or dream that i have only to find out that someone else has experienced the same thing!
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Dear Martini,
Below is an excerpt from your post. I wish to answer what you have stated here.
I agree with you brothers, I also have been to other sites where Xer's dominate and I too have found that where as I will admit they are correct on many topics,I find it disturbing how these can lack politeness. It's almost like we JW's say that when people remove the authority of God from their lives they start to believe there is no one to have to answer to for their behavoir, and so everything is valid.
I like to believe that in my journey I will find a truely balanced existence both in my respect for neighbor and to Almighty God.
That is correct in alot of instances. Many become angry with God himself, or begin to question his existance, or if they do still believe in a God, they question whether he is actually a loving being, or a selfish, hateful being. But you are correct in that it doesn't give people the right to be hateful themselves, or nasty when you state your opposite beliefs.
So many times, JW's will go to an apostate site, and attack. This has caused alot of anger to be directed at them, because the people JW's label apostate, 99% of the time are just like you, me, or anyone else. They have been hurt by the inconsistencies in the doctrines, the unloving treatment, and in many cases totally UNFAIR treatment meted out by the elders and the Society.
They have alot of bitterness toward the Organization due to being unfairly shunned, and losing their families and friends. Is it any wonder they would take this anger out on the first person they come across who REPRESENTS that Organization? Just a thought to consider.....