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  New RBC arrangements/directives

  by bud2114 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i joined awhile back and haven't posted much - just lurking like many others.

  for the past year or so i have been trying my best to fade away sooner rather than later, but the wife and most of our family have decades of involvement in this mess and well, it's difficult.

  little by little i have been sowing seeds of doubt and it does seem to be working somewhat.

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  I haven't heard of this but I would not be surprised.

  This not only smacks of kick-backs but of cult organizations' ways.

  The Borg certainly does not want any of its members to think or act on their own.

  It's scary.

  Ronin1
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  UN scandal, the defence!!! The Letter to Brant Jones

  by whereami in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is this a legit excuse?

  is this balanced and fair?

  here is the link- http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/appendix_jonesletter.html.

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  The point is many ex-JW's and active JW's did not like the fact that even if there was some indirect connection between the NGO's and the UN, the Borg had no business registered with the UN because of all their literature against the UN.

  Also, if the Borg were so innocent about their involvement or lack of involvement with the UN, there would have been no reason to remove themselves from the NGO UN list.

  Jesus Christ and the apostles when falsely accused defended themselves to the end.

  The Borg removed themselves because they knew they were hypocrites and their literature and writings attested to their hypocrisy regarding the UN.

  Ronin1
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  Yo check this out

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=33bf935e94036b41979b.

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  It seemed that after a while the JW's put the brother with the shades in front of this religious speaker to block him from the JW's leaving the convention?

  Quite tacky and disrespectful, if you ask me.

  Ronin1
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  Where were you when the planes hit?

  by coolhandluke in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it f*cks me off that this happened only a few years ago but no one in my office has yet to even mention it.

  it was such a pivotal event:.

  i was driving from fontana to chino in california dressed in service clothes.

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  I wrote this poem shortly after 9-11 having lived in NY at that time and worked downtown the day the attacks occurred:

  " The Pair"

  By: Cheryl D. Scott

  They were splendid!
  They greeted and received all whom they beheld.
  They were adept with the bustle of life.
  They were oblivious to differences.
  We needed them.
  We boldly asked of them.
  We used them.
  We took them for granted.
  We were not aware.
  We now notice.
  We now see!
  We miss them but will not forget.
  They were majestic!
  They were the Twins!
  The Twin Towers At The World Trade Center.
  REMEMBER!

  Ronin1
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  Where were you when the planes hit?

  by coolhandluke in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it f*cks me off that this happened only a few years ago but no one in my office has yet to even mention it.

  it was such a pivotal event:.

  i was driving from fontana to chino in california dressed in service clothes.

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  Here is my story on that day:

  The day began like any other work day. I had worked downtown Manhattan at Pine Street and Maiden Lane for three (3) years. I usually travel on the Long Island Railroad to Atlantic Avenue/Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn and then travel on the No. 2 or No. 3 NYC Transit subway lines uptown to Wall Street. The day began like any other work day.

  Because I am accustomed to arriving at work early, I would sometimes walk the two (2) blocks to Broadway (near what is now referred as ground zero) to do my errands. But on this day, I decided not to walk to Broadway. Instead I continued on down to Maiden Lane and was entering my building when I notice many persons just standing in the middle of Maiden Lane looking up towards the sky. A co-worker of mine quickly pulled me to the street and said to look up at the World Trade Center Towers. To my surprise and dismay, one of the towers were burning-downward-it was surreal. This tower was burning downward in slow-motion. I could not believe it-but we thought that it was a aircraft accident. Watching this burning tower we realized that people were dying in the tower. (Our company, AIG lost two (2) underwriters who were in the Towers meeting with other insurance brokers).

  I ran inside my building to my department on the third floor-all radios were attuned to what was happening not only in downtown Manhattan but across the country. We came to realize this was not just one act or accident.

  Not long after that the second Tower erupted and went down. Our building was covered in darkness with black smoke outside and there was panic inside. People were running to get out-down the stairwells- in the elevators (bad choice), etc. Soon the elevators were shut down and only one (1) was working.

  We looked outside to see people running down Maiden Lane from the World Trade Center sites towards Water Street and the Brooklyn Bridge covered in dust and debris screaming.

  By the time many of us got out of our building it was 1:00 P.M. in the afternoon. We put AIG caps on our heads and cut-up AIG shirts, watered them down and tied them around our faces to protect us from the dust outside. We then walked down Water Street until we hit the Brooklyn Bridge-walked across the Brooklyn Bridge until we reached Brooklyn. As we walked across Brooklyn Bridge in haste we could see thousands of people walking across the Manhattan Bridge-in haste. When we reached Brooklyn the atmosphere was one of confusion, fear and soberness. Along the routes of Water Street and the Brooklyn Bridge on into Brooklyn people were giving out wet towels and water. No one could really absorbed what had happened that morning. We just wanted to get out of the area and make it home safely. I finally reached home in Jamaica, Queens, NY about 4:00 P.M.

  Employees in our company (AIG) did not return to work until approximate 1 to 2 weeks later. When we did return the feeling was eerie and we felt unsafe. We felt like targets. It wasnt a good feeling. We worked in slow-motion mode. All we could think of was the many lost lives and how no one was safe anymore.

  Over a year later, it is still was not the same. Many persons were extremely nervous whenever they heard sirens. Fire drills were taken more seriously. No matter how much new or refined security measures were instituted in our buildings since September 11, 2001 (AIG had at least five (5) buildings either owned or being used by its employees within a five (5) block radius), persons still at that time had no confidence and do not feel safe.

  September 11, 2001 was certainly an Event. To say it changed our lives is an understatement.

  Ronin1
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  Bored...So I just called Ted Jaracz...

  by deaconbluez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, couldn't believe i actually got him on the phone.

  he asked who it was and i just gave a fake name and sounded official.

  i finally asked his thoughts on the 1914 date and how that teaching seems to be expiring.

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  I also spoke with Ted Jaracz back in 2002-see my experience below on a previous post:

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  The reason why I cannot stand Jaracz is because as publisher I personally spoke with him on the phone for
  twenty (20) minutes about my brother, an elder,who was having a problem with the elders in our local congregation. The Service Department would not correct the matter, in fact, they turned on my brother.

  Jaracz was a complete jerk and told me that the GB members do not get involved with local problems. They leave that up to the service department because they are too busy traveling around the world to give talks and help the other brothers in other countries.

  Now, go figure that out.

  He is a GB member, supposedly one of the "anointed", and he does not have the time to look into a problem with the so-called shepherds in the Christ's earthly congregation.

  After that conversation with Jaracz, I lost all respect for the so-called GB members and whatever they profess to know or do.

  Ronin1
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  Recording of my call to Brooklyn Service Desk...

  by deaconbluez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in what i'm hoping to do as a series for the benefit of all who want to know the truth behind the organization, here is a recorded phone call that i made about an hour ago.

  it is unedited, therefore you will notice the long gaps when the guy starts searching for an answer to my question.

  enjoy.... http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=fd70a73d1403ef59.

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  I could not listen to the recording...........kept getting an internal error message.

  Ronin1
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  September 11

  by lavendar in

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  ronin1

  Here is my story on that day:

  The day began like any other work day. I had worked downtown Manhattan at Pine Street and Maiden Lane for three (3) years. I usually travel on the Long Island Railroad to Atlantic Avenue/Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn and then travel on the No. 2 or No. 3 NYC Transit subway lines uptown to Wall Street. The day began like any other work day.

  Because I am accustomed to arriving at work early, I would sometimes walk the two (2) blocks to Broadway (near what is now referred as ground zero) to do my errands. But on this day, I decided not to walk to Broadway. Instead I continued on down to Maiden Lane and was entering my building when I notice many persons just standing in the middle of Maiden Lane looking up towards the sky. A co-worker of mine quickly pulled me to the street and said to look up at the World Trade Center Towers. To my surprise and dismay, one of the towers were burning-downward-it was surreal. This tower was burning downward in slow-motion. I could not believe it-but we thought that it was a aircraft accident. Watching this burning tower we realized that people were dying in the tower. (Our company, AIG lost two (2) underwriters who were in the Towers meeting with other insurance brokers).

  I ran inside my building to my department on the third floor-all radios were attuned to what was happening not only in downtown Manhattan but across the country. We came to realize this was not just one act or accident.

  Not long after that the second Tower erupted and went down. Our building was covered in darkness with black smoke outside and there was panic inside. People were running to get out-down the stairwells- in the elevators (bad choice), etc. Soon the elevators were shut down and only one (1) was working.

  We looked outside to see people running down Maiden Lane from the World Trade Center sites towards Water Street and the Brooklyn Bridge covered in dust and debris screaming.

  By the time many of us got out of our building it was 1:00 P.M. in the afternoon. We put AIG caps on our heads and cut-up AIG shirts, watered them down and tied them around our faces to protect us from the dust outside. We then walked down Water Street until we hit the Brooklyn Bridge-walked across the Brooklyn Bridge until we reached Brooklyn. As we walked across Brooklyn Bridge in haste we could see thousands of people walking across the Manhattan Bridge-in haste. When we reached Brooklyn the atmosphere was one of confusion, fear and soberness. Along the routes of Water Street and the Brooklyn Bridge on into Brooklyn people were giving out wet towels and water. No one could really absorbed what had happened that morning. We just wanted to get out of the area and make it home safely. I finally reached home in Jamaica, Queens, NY about 4:00 P.M.

  Employees in our company (AIG) did not return to work until approximate 1 to 2 weeks later. When we did return the feeling was eerie and we felt unsafe. We felt like targets. It wasnt a good feeling. We worked in slow-motion mode. All we could think of was the many lost lives and how no one was safe anymore.

  Over a year later, it is still was not the same. Many persons were extremely nervous whenever they heard sirens. Fire drills were taken more seriously. No matter how much new or refined security measures were instituted in our buildings since September 11, 2001 (AIG had at least five (5) buildings either owned or being used by its employees within a five (5) block radius), persons still at that time had no confidence and do not feel safe.

  September 11, 2001 was certainly an Event. To say it changed our lives is an understatement.
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  September 11

  by lavendar in

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  ronin1

  I wrote this poem shortly after 9-11 having lived in NY at that time and worked downtown the day the attacks occurred:

  " The Pair"

  By: Cheryl D. Scott

  They were splendid!
  They greeted and received all whom they beheld.
  They were adept with the bustle of life.
  They were oblivious to differences.
  We needed them.
  We boldly asked of them.
  We used them.
  We took them for granted.
  We were not aware.
  We now notice.
  We now see!
  We miss them but will not forget.
  They were majestic!
  They were the Twins!
  The Twin Towers At The World Trade Center.
  REMEMBER!
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  Confronting Our Parents. Part 1

  by jakes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during winter school holidays here in south africa,my wife and i decided to travel down to our hometown.

  to confront our parents about the jw issue.we felt we needed to clear the air and let them know what our .

  standpoint regarding the jws are,and why we will not be raising their grandchildren in the org.. once and for all we needed to get this behind us.we needed to tell them about my book and felt it would.

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  I'm am so happy your father has such a great attitude towards your beliefs and feelings.

  I am also grateful that my mother, (even though 5 of her 8 children are no longer active, or are DA or DF) has maintained her love for us and keeps in contact with us. My two brothers who are DA are visiting my mom next month and she always looks forward to their visits.

  My husband and I visited my mom back in June and she was so happy to see us. She does not care if we are no longer active.

  She understands and knows the hypocrisy of the org and even though for personal reasons she stays and attends the meetings, etc.-she does not shun any of her children.

  I wish more former JW's could have this type of support from their parents.

  P.S.- My father is deceased.

  Ronin1