This is so funny..........thanks for the laugh.
Ronin1
This is so funny..........thanks for the laugh.
Ronin1
i agreed to speak to 2 elders from the congregation that i was in from when i started my bible study in 1979 to when i disassociated myself in 1990. i was in the same congregation when i got re-instated in 2001 until i got married and moved to another congregation (30 miles away) a year later.
when i left my husband in aug. of this year i had already quit going to meetings for about 4 months.
i moved back to the same town i lived in before, of course never going to the hall.. i talked to them because i wanted closure for myself and my best friend and also my husband, both of them thought if i would just have the meeting with the elders that i would be re-adjusted.
Do not beat yourself up about this outcome.
These elder meetings can be very intimidating and you did your best.
You know the truth about the org and the time will come when you will be able to express to them what you really feel and find closure.
However, your closure should be that you know the real truth and that they are brainwashed.
Ronin1
this is one i would love to see busted.. jw were not the only ones to get a purple triangle in the nazi camps.
i bet they were not even the majority of the ones to receive them.. .
the purple triangle was a nazi concentration camp badge used by the nazis to identify several un-orthodox religious groups known as "bibelforscher".
5go
Have you read Mein Kampt and also the book on the Neurenberg Trials?
If so, you would never downplay what happened during the Holocaust.
It needs to be talked about for generations to come because so many variations of the Holocaust have played out in other countries, world wide.
Ronin1
i have been approved to write the cover story for local newspaper about jehovah's witnesses.
it can't be any more than 2,500 words.
this newspaper has a huge reader-base.
Hi:
I agree with "changeling" suggestion : "I think if more people knew the Society's negative view of higher education and this new "ban" on independant research it would go a long way in showing people that JW's are a dangerous mind control group."
This should be included in your article.
Please let us see the article once published.
Ronin 1
Was this about being in the new system or paradise?
these two opportunists (there is no other word) have set race relations in the us back 100 years.
if only they had teamed up to encourage and facilitate education and job opportunities for their constituents as vigorously as they have advocated on behalf of casual and career criminals - we'd have a better outcome for all concerned.
This white boy that was beaten (supposedly so bad, but then went to a function afterwards) was taunting and saying racial slurs to these boys and others.
It is also true that the DA just pick out these boys, one of them was not even involved in the fight and the DA did not care.
I hope the DA, the judge, and the original defense attorney for Michael Bell are all disciplined.
They are all a disgrace to our justice system.
these two opportunists (there is no other word) have set race relations in the us back 100 years.
if only they had teamed up to encourage and facilitate education and job opportunities for their constituents as vigorously as they have advocated on behalf of casual and career criminals - we'd have a better outcome for all concerned.
Yes, this happened in NJ to my girlfriend and her husband.
They are upper middle class blacks doing very well financially and living in a predominately white area.
They were stopped on various occasions by police because they drive a nice car and the police tried to say they were speeding.
My girlfriend, (who is a black panther wanna be (laugh) let them know they would file a discrimination lawsuit against the police department in their town if they did not stop this harrassment. The last episode she and her husband demanded the police chief come to the scene and advised them accordingly. The police chief apologized for the police officers' actions.
Yes, this kind of stuff is still happening in this country. It seems that many white people complain about minorities being poor and using the social services systems to live off. But then when some blacks work hard and make ends meets and finally have a little financial freedom, they are penalized and acted discriminatory against-" like you are black-you are not supposed to be able to afford a nice car or live in a nice area, etc". ITs a too-edged sword.
Yes, I too worry for my grandson's future and how they will be treated by all persons, but especially white America.
Ronin1
these two opportunists (there is no other word) have set race relations in the us back 100 years.
if only they had teamed up to encourage and facilitate education and job opportunities for their constituents as vigorously as they have advocated on behalf of casual and career criminals - we'd have a better outcome for all concerned.
Yes, definitely.
When I meet a white person or any other person for that matter, I do not think in my mind and heart that they are racist just because of their color.
I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and by associating, communicating, etc. I can make a determination.
But not all whites are prejudice and not all blacks are prejudice.
It's unfortunate that the status quo establishment is still prejudice and that's who runs this county.
Ronin1
these two opportunists (there is no other word) have set race relations in the us back 100 years.
if only they had teamed up to encourage and facilitate education and job opportunities for their constituents as vigorously as they have advocated on behalf of casual and career criminals - we'd have a better outcome for all concerned.
Snowbird:
You are correct.
Another incident that happened in Jena was that there were some black boys together at a gas station or convenience store.
The story goes like this: a white boy drive up and said that he felt threatened by the black boys. So what does he do? He gets back into his vehicle, goes home and returns with a shotgun at the black boys. To protect themselves, the black boys wrestled the gun away from this white boy. The justice: the black boys got arrested for stealing the gun and the white boy was let go.
Note: If you see a group of persons, no matter of what race and you feel threatened by them, why would you return with a gun? Just leave and do not come back. This white boy's story was full of crap. The whites in these deep south towns and also all across this country do not get punished like blacks. There is too much racial injustice in this country, period.
The problem with the Jena 6 is that they were arrested as adults when minors and this was a fight instigated by this white boy and other white youths in Jena. That is why the court turned over the adult conviction of Michael Bell.He should have been tried as a minor.
These are the type of incidents that have been going on in Jena for decades and and it must stop.I
I do not care who had to speak out- Jackson , Sharpton, etc. At least they are trying to help the blacks and get things done.
I was born and raised in this country as an African American and had my share of being prejudiced against when my brothers and sisters and I went to school in a white neighborhood in Floral Park, Queens, NY years ago. (yet they welcome the Middle Eastern families and kids with open arms and treated us blacks like dirt). The white kids would chase us with chains and sticks down the hill to the bus stop. Every day we had to watch our backs and look to see if any white kids were at the bus stop or coming down the hill. This was in NYC in the late 1969's-early 1970s'. It was terrible. To have to try to get a decent education under those conditions.
A black goes to apply for a job and is just as qualified as any other person, white, etc. Yes, he gets the job but not at the salary range a white person with the same qualifications would have received. This is the type of racial crap going on in this country for years..............it must stop.!
The next statement I am going to say may upset some on this board: but if you are not black, you have absolutely no idea of the emotional and mental torment blacks have been going through for decades in this country because of racism. Yes, you may sympathize and emphasize, but you as a non-black cannot know how blacks really feel.
I cannot speak for other non-white races in this country, but being an African-American I can tell you we are tired............of this racism. My parents worked very hard to raise us not to be racists because of what they went through and their parents when through in this country. I worked hard to raise my daughter (now 28 years old, not to be a racist and she is now working hard to raise her two boys, 2 and 5, not to be racist). If all generations worked hard to raise their children not to be racist, we would not have had this problem in Jena. It is obvious by the noose hanging on the tree by white youths they got that type of attitude from their parents or peers. It must stop.
Ronin1
these two opportunists (there is no other word) have set race relations in the us back 100 years.
if only they had teamed up to encourage and facilitate education and job opportunities for their constituents as vigorously as they have advocated on behalf of casual and career criminals - we'd have a better outcome for all concerned.
If you think the noose incident had nothing to do with the fights that broke out , you are living in a 'fishbowl'.
It had everything to so with the tension that built up in this town to the point of the final fight that led to these boys arrests.
Where have you been all these years, in this country, with all the racial tension in the south because of blacks being hung, raped, killed, etc by whites because of the color of their skin,etc.?
Ronin1