does anyone remember the intentional murder of a young jw brother named kevin foote.
he and his wife lived in queens, ny- they had a house in long island, ny, etc.. i was in the same pioneer class with kevin.
he was a very nice young brother who loved his wife and son dearly.
Here is more information:
-- Vanessa Foote of Brooklyn, N.Y., conspired with her lover, Jeffrey Richardson, to kill her first husband, Wall Street accountant Kevin Foote. After Richardson shot him, she used the life insurance money to pay for her wedding reception with Richardson. The honeymoon period turned rocky, though, when Vanessa Foote Richardson decided to testify against the second husband at his murder trial. Just because she said, "Kill him" doesn't mean she didn't love him.
does anyone remember the intentional murder of a young jw brother named kevin foote.
he and his wife lived in queens, ny- they had a house in long island, ny, etc.. i was in the same pioneer class with kevin.
he was a very nice young brother who loved his wife and son dearly.
Does anyone remember the intentional murder of a young JW brother named Kevin Foote. He and his wife lived in Queens, NY- they had a house in Long Island, NY, etc.
I was in the same pioneer class with Kevin. He was a very nice young brother who loved his wife and son dearly. We all were assigned to the Brooklyn, NY (Flatbush Avenue) assembly hall for our Circuit Assemblies. His murder was first thought of as a robbery gone bad in an elevator in an apartment building where his wife's relatives lived. He was shot in the head, I believe.
Well, it turned out his wife had remained friends with a former boyfriend, out of prison, and she set up the visit to the relatives apartment (knowing that they would not be home that day) and set up the murder of Kevin Foote, her husband.
I believe Kevin had taken good care of them financially and had purchased a large life insurance policy.
His wife, after his death and funeral, moved South with this man, married him and set up shop................It did not take too long for the NYC police department to figure out what happened. She and her lover were extradited back to NYC for trial and conviction. I think she received 25 years- but I am not sure.
Anyone remember this sad incident and have an up-date on this case and Kevin Foote's family and son?
Ronin1
last week at the meeting, the po, who has very close connections to bethel, said that he never thought he would see the day that bethelites were being sent home.
he said that the biggest two reasons he thought bethel were cutting back, was automation and a massive decline in contributions.
looks like you're right metatron about the contribution aspect being their achilles heel.
LovesDubs:
You hit it in the nail.
P.S.- Don't forget in the early years laundering monies out of the USA.
Ronin1
a few points from the 2006 biannual c.o.
meeting w/elders & ms. the theme was "take a personal interest in others"...phil 2:4,5. shepherding work.
we have lives in our hands.
I believe there was a somewhat similar case out of Boston some time ago about either a bethelite or CO that was involved in an auto accident that caused either a fatal or serious injury and the WTS was eventually held legally liable because the brother was involved in the ministry.
Someone on this site may remember this court case.
Ronin1
a. this is statement a. only one statement or sentence here.
b. statement b. one sentence... .
i. cult.
The Merriam Webser's Delux Dictionary-Tenth Collegiate Edition defines a cult as :
1. formal religous veneration; worship== WTS fits this profile
2. a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also ; its body of adherents==WTS fits this profile
Definition of adherents: one that adheres: as (a) a follower of a leader, party, or profession (b) believer in or advocate especially of a particular idea or church
3. a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also; its body of adherents==WTS fits this profile
4. a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator (health cults)==WTS fits this profile-blood transfussion doctrine.
5a. a great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work ( as a film or book) (especially such devotion regarded as literary or intellectural fad. ==WTS fits this profile- devotion to GB members, etc.
5b. a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion.
Ronin1
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went down to wilsons prom for the weekend, it was great altho had to cut the weekend short mike developed a fever there.
it was cold and dark but still great here are some pics for ya.
These pics are great!!
It looks like you guys had a great time.
Thanks for sharing...........
Ronin1
she's still in a coma.
she's in cardiology icu.
the hospitalist was giving me and my family the run around, not there, not telling us much; so, i fired him.
Hang in there.
You have a tough decision to make but know that our prayers are with your mother, you, and your family.
Ronin1
anyone know this poor soul?
randy
a brother who served as a curcuit and district.
IP_SEC:
You are correct about this statement: "You are also responsible for subjecting yourself to that authority. No one had a gun to your head. You werent shackled to those kingdom hall seats. The only real victims of the JWs are minor kids as they dont have choice. The adults can pick up and leave any day they are ready too. If you consider yoursef a victim of the mean elders, you made yourself a victim."
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That is why once I and my husband came to a full realization of who really had power over us- only Jehovah God and Jesus Christ, we took our stand.
On many occasions when elders, bethelites, and bethel elders tried to tell me something, I would ask them this particular question:
Can you give me good health, everlasting life, or raised me from the dead? When they would answer: of course not, then I would reply- then the society cannot tell me anything.
Point blank- we can only be dupped if we allow ourselves to be dupped.
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Still, persons' sentiments are very strong about the hurt they suffered by the decisions of ones in authority. I do not believe their feelings are of hatred.................just still very angry and hurt.
Ronin1
anyone know this poor soul?
randy
a brother who served as a curcuit and district.
To Uninformed:
You make some interesting and good points. However, I think you are missing the feelings of persons on this particular site.
I, for one, cannot condone anyone who sees what is clearly wrong and not taking a stand for truth and justice. That means that elders who know their BOEs are doing wrong and making unkind, unloving, cruel, etc. decisions in meetins and still stick with them in their decisions are not excusable. I do not care that an Elder, CO, or DO may want to keep their so-called position or standing. That is not what being a servant of God is about or serving the spiritual needs of the flock.
When my father and my mother moved to SC from NYC (Queens) and my father saw what was going on in their new SC local congregation as respects the BOE's, he told my mother he would never serve as an elder in that congregation and he didn't.. As an elder and as a person, my father always stood against injustices- as siblings we miss that in him. He and my mother taught all of my siblings to be the same way. When my husband was a MS in NYC (Queens) and he saw the nonscense going on with the BOE's and MSs, he stepped down voluntarily as a MS. He refused to continue in their unchristians ways. The elders pressured him for a scriptural reason for his 'stepping down' and he would not give them one.
I hope no one hates the COs, DO's , or elders. But there are strong sentiments about such ones that have clearly abused their so-called power to the destruction of persons' spiritual and physical lives, destroying families and really causing many persons to loose their faith in Jehovah God and his promises.
For their actions, forgiveness will not come easily.
Ronin1
anyone know this poor soul?
randy
a brother who served as a curcuit and district.
After reading all these posts, I will state this again as I did in an earlier post:
"WE should have heeded the counsel in the Bible from long ago........it's always been there :
Ps 56:11 -" In God I have put my trust. I shall not be afraid. What can earthling man do to me?".
Jer 7:4 - "Do not put your trust in fallacious words, saying, 'the temple of Jehovah, the temple of Jehovah, the temple of Jehovah they are".
Instead, many of us continued to listen to the diatribes and fallacies of the WTS ( not from God), their threats of disfellowshipment, destruction, etc. and allowed ourselves to be suckered into many untrue doctrines, rules, etc.
Thus we allowed ourselves to be dupped.and were dupped.
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And I definitely understand many of the sentiments expressed. If anyone has had a chance to read Mein Kampt by Adolf Hitler and the "Nurenberg Trials"- you will understand the mentality of 'just following orders' and why that can be no excuse for any elder who professes or professed to be a true Christian and then get involved in the negative and non-Christlike actions that have taken place at BOE meetings and witch hunts, etc. Their BOE's meeting decisions destroyed lives of many families-never to be repaired. That is why so many on this site have no sympathy for COs and DOs, etc. now suffering and being put out to pasture by the WTS. Those Elders, CO's and DOs had no business 'just following orders' of men in lieu of Christ Jesus example and Gods' word the Bible.
Forgiveness is not easy for some. Let's just hope their not being able to forgive does not hinder them from progressing toward whatever positive goals they have set for themselves since leaving the BORG.
Ronin1
