Posts by ros

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Prepping for a Far-Off Armageddon?

by outnfree in

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this little item from the 08 sept 2001 awake!

caught my eye, making me think that as the "generation" ages and the tower becomes more and more mainstream, the need for armageddon to come soon "to bring to ruin those ruining the earth" may not be so urgent:.

'overpopulation' a myth?.

ros

I would be surprised if they ever intentionally fade away from trying to present a sense of urgency for the end of the world. People are much more productive when they think it will affect their own life. It has always been so profitable for the organization. For example, when Fred Franz merely suggested a possibility of 1975 in the 1960s, it exploded into a frenzy. Once the Organization saw how profitable it was, they kept it going and even fueled the fire.

So, when there was a falling away following 1975, what did they do? They had a house-cleaning at Bethel in 1980 and claimed the falling away between 1975-1980 was due to apostacy at headquarters.

No, I don't think they are likely to let go of the sense of urgency for the end of the world until they are ready to 'cash in their chips' to phrase it in 'apostate' terms.

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DATELINE-"Soon!AnyDayNow!JustAroundTheCorn...

by Tallyman in

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dateline-"soon!anydaynow!justaroundthecorner!".

just read bendrr's post.. been out of the loop for awhile.. what's the deal with this so-called piece/expose on jw-pedophilia.

that nbc's "dateline" is supposed to be airing?.

ros

DateLine has been interviewing and filming in various parts of the country. Their plan at this time is to air the program in September. But who's to say whether the WTS could interfere, buy them off, or whatever. Maybe THAT could happen. Barring something like that, if things go as planned at this time, they will be airing the program this fall.

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Meet Silentlambs In Person!

by silentlambs in

i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.

the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.

i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.

ros

SilentLambs:

Erica Rodriguez is not DF or DA, as far as all are concered she is a Jehovah's Witness in good standing.

Correct me if I'm getting this confused with another case, but isn't this the one where the parent was disfellowshipped for reporting the guy to the authorites?

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PREDICTION:

by ros in

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as we see a rising tide of problems confronting the new watchtower leadership, and a tidal wave swelling on the horizon, some interesting rumours are starting to trickle out.

we are waiting to see what the fallout will be following the dateline expose' on pedophilia cover-ups, which will undoubtedly lead to exposing the watchtower's policy to cover up other criminal behavior so as to not "bring reproach on jehovah's name.

" rumour is that the factions at headquarters are becoming increasingly divided.

ros

Metatron and Max:

How about things like spouse battering? Adult rape? Theft?
How about a confession of having committed murders prior to becoming a JW?

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No Moral Absolutes?

by Rex B13 in

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hi gang,.

those who claim that morality is subjective have painted themselves into a corner.

how about this, kent, big jim, seeker, a.f., j.h., troglodyte trilobyte, hippo the dippo, lisa baby, mulan, ldh, boynenko, et al?.

ros

My personal view is that morality is not subjective, but people opinions about make it appear to be subjective. I tend to think that the morality of a partaicular specie is evident from the needs of their young, and the attitude of parents about their off-spring. So, in those species that mate for life, we see both parents taking part in the rearing of their young, and the offspring have an inherent need that matches the parental participation. Also, in some species (birds), it seems that mating at least matches the time it takes for the young to mature where both parents participate in the upbringing.

So, I ask: Why do people mate? Especially people who believe in open and free sex. Presumably, if they are honest, they have the same standard for their mate, right? Why not abolish marriage and get rid of all the problems associated with d-i-v-o-r-c-e? If people want to live together fine--nothing stopping them. Any number and any combination. If a woman wants a harem of men, what's the big deal? People in those families wouldn't know who their father was, but then what difference should that make? Its subjective isn't it? Lots of animals don't know who their sire is, and they get along just fine. And just think: There wouldn't be any jealous rages for unfaithfulness, no unwarranted possiveness. We need to simplify human existence and get rid of a lot of these subjective hang-ups. People don't NEED to know who their sire is. Right? We've been 'brainwashed' again. (Course, then there is the question, why do so many human fathers feel such a strong attachment for their off-spring. Must be subjective.)

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PREDICTION:

by ros in

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as we see a rising tide of problems confronting the new watchtower leadership, and a tidal wave swelling on the horizon, some interesting rumours are starting to trickle out.

we are waiting to see what the fallout will be following the dateline expose' on pedophilia cover-ups, which will undoubtedly lead to exposing the watchtower's policy to cover up other criminal behavior so as to not "bring reproach on jehovah's name.

" rumour is that the factions at headquarters are becoming increasingly divided.

ros

Good point, RW!
(We WT-apostates sure make it difficult for the WTS to get "new light" from Jehovah first, huh? )

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Meet Silentlambs In Person!

by silentlambs in

i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.

the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.

i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.

ros

Nytelecom1:
I would be interested in hearing more about what you have to say about the case. Post me, if you like, at: [email protected]
Thanks.

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PREDICTION:

by ros in

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friends

as we see a rising tide of problems confronting the new watchtower leadership, and a tidal wave swelling on the horizon, some interesting rumours are starting to trickle out.

we are waiting to see what the fallout will be following the dateline expose' on pedophilia cover-ups, which will undoubtedly lead to exposing the watchtower's policy to cover up other criminal behavior so as to not "bring reproach on jehovah's name.

" rumour is that the factions at headquarters are becoming increasingly divided.

ros

As we see a rising tide of problems confronting the new Watchtower leadership, and a tidal wave swelling on the horizon, some interesting rumours are starting to trickle out. We are waiting to see what the fallout will be following the DateLine expose' on pedophilia cover-ups, which will undoubtedly lead to exposing the Watchtower's policy to cover up other criminal behavior so as to not "bring reproach on Jehovah's Name." Rumour is that the factions at headquarters are becoming increasingly divided. I make this prediction when the going gets rough in the near future:

The Watchtower faction from the 'old school' will claim to their adherents that it is the foretold persecution, liken it to the 'great tribulation', as a sure sign that Armageddon is 'closer than ever.' Jehovah's Witnesses will be admonished to get out and really sell that literature to find the sheep in the last hours. Like the pre-1975 decade, it could prove to be yet another big money maker.

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Meet Silentlambs In Person!

by silentlambs in

i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.

the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.

i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.

ros

Fwiw, you all should see proplog2 defending the Watchtower and these characters on H2O. propsicko claims to be a still-associated JW/atheist, but defends the Watchtower Society at length in this matter. A real nut case if you ask me.

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Meet Silentlambs In Person!

by silentlambs in

i am going to be at a trial in ritzville, washington.

the town is about an hour southwest from spokane, wa.

i will be there on august 14th, which will be on a tuesday.

ros

To alamb:

At this moment, I am planning to attend--if my car gets fixed in time. Will be driving from Boise. About a 5-hour drive. If that would help, post me privately at [email protected] and we can communicate further.