im watching the bbc now, and theres a report about ex coal miners in poland.
they have no jobs, and so instead they attack coal trains, hang onto the side and pull the wagon doors open while the train in moving.
then people move in and collect the spilled coal from the side of the tracks.
Polands in the EU now too!Wtf is going on.I doubt there has ever been a Country that has been so shafted throughout History like Poland has.
I was reading in the paper on Sunday that there is this "fear" in France of cheap Polish workers coming in and driving down wages. And because of this fear, the French voted down the EU constitution. Supposedly now there are billboards all over France warning people not to hire cheap Polish help. Is this true?
has anyone on this board that ended up in divorce (mainly) because of j.w.
problems, ever received an apology from their ex for divorcing them because of religious differences?.
like, maybe that since the divorce the ex got out of the org and realized that they were wrong to divorce you at that time?.
Hmmmm....my ex hasn't come right out and apologized per say but has "kinda sorta" said that she regrets turning me into the elders (I joined the YMCA after being inactive for a year) and agreed that this was the beginning of the end of our marriage. On the other hand, I cannot see us being married - with her being a devout Jdub and me celibrating the hoildays, flying a flag, etc...
How does anyone make that work? My congrats to any who do!
i just wondered if anybody here plays halo 2 online?
or any other x-box live games?
My 14 year son got me hooked on both Halo games, esp. Halo 2 on xbox live. It can get pretty intense and addictive. Bet I can kick your ass.
i'm interested in how many here give to the homeless, or any kind of charity, since that was not a part of the witness experience.
i have to admit that my heart is hard ...
I do more often then not. My kids and I pulled into a truckstop on our way to Wisconsin and there was a dude there with a sign, asking for money. I gave him a few bucks. Yeah, he might have used it to buy beer but he might also use it to buy food. IMO either way the guy looked in bad shape so what is it to me to give him something that might make him happy for a little bit.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gas17.html
5 bucks a gallon for gas?
expert sees it in 2006 .
Roy, not all states have it as a % of gas price. In Oregon taxes are still about 30cents per gallon.
You're right Brenda, I spoke before having all the facts. I should have stated "the politicians in Illinois love it (the price going up) becase Illinois collects a percentage of the price." And it has been a great source of increased revenue. As a matter of fact, last year alone, the gov. of Illinois diverted 500 million dollars from the roads and highway fund (gas tax revenue) and used it for other expenses. Nice way to balance the budget.
regarding iran's nuke program, the evil george bush stood on the sideline and let the europeans do it their way via diplomacy through the u.n. well, iran has basically told them to screw off and has now re-started it's nuke program and seems to have no intention to stop their development of nukes.
this u.n. delegation has now given iran the "eleventh hour warning" which they will laugh at.
soon it will be brought before the u.n. security counsel and a recommendation to impose sanctions against iran will be made and voted upon.
Oh give it up already. How can I take you seriously if you satarise the opposite side through self-effacement as the first salvo in an apparently serious post? You obviously have already determined that you are right and the opposite side are wrong. Why the pretence at discussion then?
Because everything turns into a "hey let's not talk about the topic but instead just bash Bush" thread. Been there, done that and I don't feel like re-hashing that topic over and over again.
Sooooo now we have a situation with Iran, Europe has taken the lead and Iran has told them to f*ck off. What should be done next?
I can not believe that people are so gullible as to fall for more-or-less the same trick again.
1/ Present a threat that isn't there
2/ Ensure that people think if is relevent (to home security) and serious enough to warrant extreme action
3/ Take that extreme action
Well, let's see. 35 nations on the U.N.'s atomic watchdog agency demanded that Iran immediately freeze all work uranium enrichment, so someone be concerned.
Many many many people (like most right-wing Americans on this board) fell for the bull over Iraq hook-line-and-sinker. For ages after the invasion we listened to them say 'any day now' as regards the discovery of WoMD...
Yeah, while all the left wingers' (Kenndey, Kerry, Clinton, etc) opposed an invasion of Iraq and argued for more time.....oh wait a minute, they did that AFTER we invaded and things got hairy.
Yeah, getting rid of an evil dictator was a good idea, but we sure did it a bad way.
No argument there, but I thought we were talking about Iran?
Now the big fat assumpotion leading the NEW LIE (bought to you by the makers of the old lie) is that Iran have a de facto nuclear weapons program.
Um...but Aba, it's the U.N. who's pressuring Iran to stop it's nuke program. Granted, the U.S. is acting like a pitbull tied up to a tree but it's quite clear that Europe is stating that it has major concerns about Iran's pursuit of nukes.
Get this; in a period where Iran was an ally, and we were helping them build nuclear power stations,
Russia - ally, enemy, ally. Japan - friend, enemy, best buddy. U.K. - mother, father, enemy, buddy, enemy, cousin, buddy. etc..etc..
Gags aside, seems that although Pakistan and India are probably the most likely source of a aggressive use of nuclear weapons,
Yup, thanks Europe, you guys really did a great job protecting that nuke technology.
So, why don't we leave them alone? Or do you really want more people to die because of scares over unproven millitary capabilities that NO ONE thinks would be used offensively even IF they did exist.
Iran + nukes + ballistic missles + extreme hatred for the west = Big Trouble
I'm off to the dentist...Have fun
regarding iran's nuke program, the evil george bush stood on the sideline and let the europeans do it their way via diplomacy through the u.n. well, iran has basically told them to screw off and has now re-started it's nuke program and seems to have no intention to stop their development of nukes.
this u.n. delegation has now given iran the "eleventh hour warning" which they will laugh at.
soon it will be brought before the u.n. security counsel and a recommendation to impose sanctions against iran will be made and voted upon.
and for what i know, iran is not planning to build a nuke.
Yeah, sitting on one of the largest oil and natural gas reserves in the world and they need a nuclear plant for power. Yeaaaah riiight.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gas17.html
5 bucks a gallon for gas?
expert sees it in 2006 .
At any rate i hope it goes to $10 a gallon and it hurts like hell. Then the US will DO something about alternatives and we will remove dependence on the middle east and they can go and pound sand and kill each other because we won't need them any longer.Donkey
Personally, I believe that the state and federal government loves high gas prices. Don't forget, the tax on gas is a PERCENTAGE of the price, not a flat fee added to it.
Here in IL they balanced the budget with projected taxes coming from gas sales. Now with gas going up 35%, they are raking in the big bucks. No wonder the state and federal governments don't want us to change our driving habits. They're loving it!
regarding iran's nuke program, the evil george bush stood on the sideline and let the europeans do it their way via diplomacy through the u.n. well, iran has basically told them to screw off and has now re-started it's nuke program and seems to have no intention to stop their development of nukes.
this u.n. delegation has now given iran the "eleventh hour warning" which they will laugh at.
soon it will be brought before the u.n. security counsel and a recommendation to impose sanctions against iran will be made and voted upon.
YOu seem to be using a piece of Iranian propaganda to prove your point, even making it a bit more dramatic than it was the case. The humanitarian aid from Israel didn't matter that much with the help they had received from all the other countries. The Iranian authorities were able to afford refusing the Israeli help thus achieving a propaganda effect. We have no positive evidence to think otherwise. And certainly this does not constitute positive evidence to invade a big country causing the death of millions of Iranians and tens of thousands of Western soldiers, which (having been to Iran and having talked to the people) I think would be inevitable.
I'm not sure how it got turned around by my stance isn't to invade Iran. I really don't think that's needed at this point IF europe follows through with forcing Iran to see the bad economic results from pursuing a nuclear arms program. I just don't they will. Just as Germany, France, Russia and China broke the U.N. sanctions imposed upon Iraq, they would not only to this again but probably not even allow them pass the U.N. security consul.
My point is that the europeans do not want Iran to have nukes but they're not willing to do anything to stop them. This includes both militarily and economically. And ,without sounding too melodramatic, when a nuke goes off in London or New York or Amsterdam, we'll all sit around and bitch about "Bush not doing enough" or "Blair should have stopped Iran" or "Why didn't Dominique de Villepin do enough to prevent countries like Iran from passing nukes..."
Just makes me angry that the world is less secure because certain people don't want their business dealing with Iran touched. We all sit around and bitch about Bush and Big Oil, well, what about big business in europe and the effect of Iranian sanctions would have on them?
Regarding Israel and Iran. I'm not a big defender of Israel but there is no way any one can convince me that somehow someone in Iran wouldn't use a nuke against Israel. I don't picture Iran "attacking" Israel knowing that Israel has at least 200 nukes but a radical leader in Iran not caring and attacking Israel anyway???? hmmm....maybe I've been reading too many Tom Clancy novels.
Personally, I hope that the situation with Iran doesn't result in military action by the U.S. or europe. However, a nuclear stockpile sitting in Iran and another in Israel, that is a small fire burning next to a tanker truck.
regarding iran's nuke program, the evil george bush stood on the sideline and let the europeans do it their way via diplomacy through the u.n. well, iran has basically told them to screw off and has now re-started it's nuke program and seems to have no intention to stop their development of nukes.
this u.n. delegation has now given iran the "eleventh hour warning" which they will laugh at.
soon it will be brought before the u.n. security counsel and a recommendation to impose sanctions against iran will be made and voted upon.
I just think a proactive stance against Iran ,by sending in an invasion force, could well be worse than just sitting around letting them get on with it.All kinds of canned worms will be opened.
I guess what could be worse is Iran looking the other way while a nuke is "stolen" from them by a terrorist organization and detonated in the U.S., europe or any place.
