Hi Dave, I do recall it being mentioned on this very forum some years ago, there were even newspaper articles, unfortunately I forget what country it was. Someone here shoudl know, but I'll see what I could find.
RR
i just got an email from a still active witness friend of mine and in it she says that they no longer use the word disfellowshipped.
they announce that so and so is "no longer " one of jehovah''s witnesses.
is this true?
Hi Dave, I do recall it being mentioned on this very forum some years ago, there were even newspaper articles, unfortunately I forget what country it was. Someone here shoudl know, but I'll see what I could find.
RR
i just got an email from a still active witness friend of mine and in it she says that they no longer use the word disfellowshipped.
they announce that so and so is "no longer " one of jehovah''s witnesses.
is this true?
This was a new tactic by the Society in Europe in regards the blood issue. A big controversy ensued, because they DF'd those who accepted blood transfusions, because of such measures, they were not recognized as a religion. So they stated that they do not DF for accepting blood. Instead, wheen someone took blood, because they violated the rules, they were simply said to be "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".
RR
some of you on here know that i have been fading for sometime now and stopped going to meetings for quite a while but the past month or so i have returned.i am still just not sure whether at the end jws will be found to be gods people or not.. well today i attended the early sunday meeting eager to try and do what i still think could be right and despite the doubts i have about the watchtower.. now to be fair a number of people came and spoke to me said hello and stuff.the majority just didnt bother.but what really got me today was a number of people who i thought were my friends were just hateful.i even held the door open for one of them and they just were so hatefull and gave me funny looks as if i had the plague or something.i left feeling like this is no diffrent to any other religion.
some nice and other people not so nice.all i could think of on the way home was so much for jehovah never forgetting what you have done for him.im starting to wonder whether the bible is really gods word after all.. i just feel im at a fork in the road and dont know what to do for the best..
Hi Jace, I feel for you. I was never DF'd, and when we faded, there were so many rumors about us. You just couldn't make this stuff up. A few months later we went to a funeral and few spoke to us, there were whispers, and we could hear them. fact is we looked no different then when we first faded. Rumors were that I had a beard and long hair and started my own church and was writings books ... well 15 years later most of that is true but that wasn't the case back then.
I still believe the Bible is God's Word. I don't believe He has a particular religion. God has a standard, both morally and doctrinally, and those who follows those standards are His. If you happen to find a group of people who have those standards and those standards are also yours, then fine, fellowship with them. But in the end, membership in any man made church, no matter how reverant they are is not a ticket into the Kingdom. No amount of meetings attendnace, no amout of hours in field service, Bible studies will get you in the Kingdom.
RR
i often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.
while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).
a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.
Hmmm ... the only ones I can think of off the top of my head were
1. Robert (Bob) Jones
2. John Cavahlo
3. Reggie White
4. Mark Whalen
5. Ralph Jackson
6, Lee Farber
a lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?
" and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.
doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.
The SDA church have had their share of problems like the Society. There have been numerous schisms in the groyup from its inception. The Church was originall a second adventist church, then were influence by the Seventh Day Baptist. After the death of Ellen White, a schism occurred. The Seventh Day Adventist Church and the Reform Seventh Day Adventist Church, both went trinitarian. There are smaller groups that are not.
They of course meet on Saturdays ALL day and observe the LAW as well as its diets. So unless you're willing to meet on Saturdays and eat kosher foods and dress a specific way. this may not be for you.
RR
did anyone see todays show?
sherri talks about being raised a jw and how she left after her father was df'd and she could no longer speak to him.
it was really surprising to me.....am i the last to know she was raised a jw?.
She's mentioned it quite a few times in the past.
RR
this is my first christmas following the complete fade, but i have to maintain the fade.. hence, i have been uncomfortable with saying "merry christmas.
" the closest i have .
come this year is "same to you" and "enjoy your holiday.".
no problem here!
this urban legend is being spread by morons on the right.
first off there was no other man it was the un's .
intergovernmental panel on climate changewhich is not a man it is a panel of people, and it has not refused the nobel peace prize.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/intergovernmental_panel_on_climate_change.
Strangely, even though Gore could not have done anythying without his panel, he is the one who gets the glory and the prize and money. The panel get's an letter congratulating them on their accomplishments. Although they are nobel prize winners. a Bible Student in Chicago was on that panel.
RR
i unerstand that in the 1975 runup, they said 6,000 years were almost ending.. however in the wayto paradise by van de amburgh ,it says 7,000 years have passed..
C.T. Russell taught and borrowed the idea that each creative day was 7,000 years each, 7 x 7 is 49, thus the 50th would be the jubilee year that would eventually usher ion the Kingdom. He believe it began in 1872 or thereabouts.
Later the Judge made all these changes without explaining why. he moved the presence from 1874 to 1914, and made may other chronological chnages without any chronology to explainthe dates. It fell on the shoulders of red Franz to make sense of it all, this he did in 1966, when Franz wrote the "Freedom" book adding 102 years to the Chronology, from 1872 to 1975, claiming that teh end of 6,000 years would be in 1975 ushering in the 7,000th and everyone expecting armageddon, even some non-witness groups looked in 1975.
RR
i don't feel comfortable living as an atheist.
i believe the world is far to complex and humans are too incredible to have just occurred.
therefore, if i was to attend a church, which one should i consider?
First, I don't think one should join a religion for the sake of joining a religion. If you have a set of beliefs, then you should find a group that also believes those beliefs.
If you just want acceptance for who up are" then Unitarian Universalist would be one.