please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?
how do you dispute it?
exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?
"In the book of Amos the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible uses the name of Yahweh. That indicates that the YHWH was originally used in that verse."
It may indicate it to you but not to me. Why would I find the NEW anything to be accurate. I stick with the Douay-Rheims or Ignatious version it is a much more accurate translation.
please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?
how do you dispute it?
exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?
ruffian,
I don't know if it was mentioned, but what you just wrote fits in with an idea I have. I think Jesus told us how to address God in the Lord's prayer - Our Father.
I wanted to mention, that although I am not Catholic, I occasionally watch the Catholic channel on cable tv. I like to listen to the Hail Mary and The Lord's Prayer in the Catholic Mass. I also like Sister Angelica.
Larc
Thanks for the mention of the Lords prayer. I had thought it myself and had forgotten it because I hadnt written it down. Im glad to see that it is actually something that others find credible. I wish I got EWTN cant get it here. Mother Angelica is a hoot I listen to her on the radio. She may be funny, but she gets right to the point and doent hold back any punches. I bet You Know wouldnt be able to hold his own with her<grin>.What faith are you Larc?
please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?
how do you dispute it?
exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?
Well frankly He scares the hell out of me
please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?
how do you dispute it?
exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?
Darn I hate to agree with that outrageous statement<grin>. But- it seems to me that if God would be angry over his sons death being memorialized, then he would also be angry if we called Him by His first name. Since He is awesome, I wouldnt dare call him Bob. Would you call the president by his first name (If you supoorted him).Would you call a parent by their first name? Heck no. Out of respect for authority you use titals. Mrs. Mr. Doctor, Brother, Father, etc. Just seems a little disrespectfull to me to call God by this alledged first name.
please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?
how do you dispute it?
exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?
Yes he is a pretty bad example of a child of God period.The girls that come to my home are so nice and polite, and Im sure they are very good people. I just didnt come to this board to hear things like You Know is saying. If I wanted a debate board or to be preached to I can go someplace else. He has given good information- I just think he would be listened to better if he wasnt so nasty. I for one lost respect for him after he decided to make accusations against my faith that were simply not true.Up till then, Id actually wrote down some of what he had said.
please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?
how do you dispute it?
exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?
"It was not necessary for the apostles to reveal that God's name was Jehovah. "
Im not sure but there must be many places in the Bible where the apostles mention God. Seems to me that if it were that important that they would have used the name Jehovah. Amos is old testament, so it doesnt disprove that the apostles new any such thing and my Douay-Rheims the word Lord not Jehovah in it, so again no proof.
"Interestingly though, in the 19th chapter of Revelation the apostle used the term "hallalujah," which was frequently used in the Psalms, and means praise Jah. Jah was a shortened form of Jehovah. "
St John wrote the book of Apocalypse. How do you know that it is the same Jah in that referance? Show me where it ties in. Show me where it says that Jah is THEE shortened form for Jehovah and that it applies to the Psalms. And even if it did Im pretty interested in this "tribal" god theory and the Psalms could have adapted the word from the old tribal name. But be that as it may- I dont see a connection to even make it so.Also Acts 15 says nothing about Jehovah it uses the word Lord just like in Acts. You have yet to prove that Jehovah is what Peter was refering to.As you said, the apostles would have already known the importance of this name. None of the text in the N.T was changed. Jehovah was only used in the O.T from what I have learned so far. So you cant put a connection between Paul and Acts. Paul clearly says Lord and that is a text that is unchanged. If it had been so darn important, Paul would have used the name Jehovah.
please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?
how do you dispute it?
exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?
"Without a doubt, this is some of the goofiest "reasoning" that has ever emanated from a human mind. "
I know Im new to the group and I dont want to start any fights but is it really necessary to make such statements when they are obviously hurtfull and just plain untrue? I thought I found a great group but this like going to a great party and there always being that one drunk guy that makes everyone uncomfortable. If you must disagree could you please do so politely?
"How true the apostle's words about those who had become "empty-headed in their reasonings," and who do "not approve of holding God in accurate knowledge." "
So the the apostles knew to call God Jehovah as well and that is what they wrote to pass on to us? I mean since they didnt suffer from "empty headedness" and held God in such accurate knowledge.
please can someone shed light on the claim that when the bible was originaly written it had the name jehovah in it over 7000 times but it was changed because of superstition?
how do you dispute it?
exactly where did they get that crazy version of their bible anyway?
Im confused. It seemed to me that if the prophets DID write useing that name jehovah, that since they were divinly inspired, the name that they used would have been inspired by God as well.
maybe some of you are familiar with the study guid that the j.w's brought to me.
its called "what does god really require of us?
" in chaper 2 they mention graven images.
Actually you seem to be the one a bit confused. Maybe you need to brush up on your scriptures a bit more before you assume there is no biblical support for what Catholics believe. I didnt join this board for yet another chance to debate someone that hasnt bothered to really learn about the faith [8>] so Im not going to get into this excpt to give you some scriputural referances. For images please see- Exodus 25. 18/ Numb. 21.8,9/ Exodus 37.7/ 2 Paralipomenon 3. 10,11/ 3 Kings 6. 23, 32, 35/ 1 Paralipomenon 28. 18, 19/ Hebrews 11. 21/ Psalm 98. 5.
See also saints- Luke 16.9/ 1 Corin. 12. 8/ Apoc 5.8/ Hebrews 12. 22,23/ Apoc 2. 26,27 and ch 5.10/ Luke 15. 10/ 1Corin. 13. 12 ! John 3. 2/ Exodus 32. 11, 14/ 1Kings 7. 8-10/ Romans 15. 30
I hope this helps a bit and please in the future try to refrain from accusing me of not knowing my faith- have a nice night.
Well duh! LOL.
