did i read somewhere that wt is putting out "the last warning"?.
was it assembly topic or something?.
does this mean they will shut up now?.
Dear dear Reniaa,
When the last generation finally arrives, whenever that may be.
Is there not another generation waiting in the wings for just this chance of salvation (Infinitum), remember Acts 24 v 15 (resurrection of the righteous AND the unrighteous, many of the unrighteous were never repentant at death? Yet this resurrection is not based on whether they were repentant or not.
KT
did i read somewhere that wt is putting out "the last warning"?.
was it assembly topic or something?.
does this mean they will shut up now?.
They have been shouting wolf for many years now, although one day they definitely are going to be right.
Our survival will not be as a consequence of heeding their warnings, they have failed too many times before, even though they boast of their understanding of scripture! (Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the son, but the father) Mark 13 v 32.
They have misdirected people by their failed statements/prophecies, they are guilty of causing end of the world fatigue in good Christian people.
But I suppose they are privy to this special information.
But look at the damage they have done to peoples lives by their FALSE WARNINGS!!!!
KT
if an elder who in the past has sat on a judicial committee, (and therefore being a part of determining the outcome of bro/sis).
was later found out to have been in a sinful condition at that time, does that make the document (that he had signed as part of the three signatures), legal in the eyes of the board?.
there was a case in england where an elder had been jailed for paedophilia spreading back many years.
If an elder who in the past has sat on a judicial committee, (and therefore being a part of determining the outcome of Bro/Sis). was later found out to have been in a sinful condition at that time, does that make the document (that he had signed as part of the three signatures), legal in the eyes of the Board?
There was a case in England where an elder had been jailed for paedophilia spreading back many years. No doubt he had sat on many J/Cs before he was found out. Would such a situation make the outcome null & void?
More appropriate could the Borg. be sued, as many other Christian Orgs have been.
KT
this was the second letter given to elders that turned out to be a "resignation" letter.
this was, as you will see, because they chose not to answer any of our questions.
the reason we are posting our letter, is because it is now obvious (by personal experiences) that ones who we thought were our friends are now choosing to shun us.
"it could be a copy and paste from many such statements off this site."
Dear Reniaa,
Of course it is a cut and paste letter, replying to statements made by the Wts, what better way of proving the hypocrisies of the Org., than by using their OWN material, you would not want me to use apostate material from elsewhere, that might have dubious backgrounds would you?
Question;
1…Is it wrong to use material sourced from the Wts Archives/library?
2 …Do you NOT believe the statements laid out in our letter?
3…Are you NOT going to answer questions 1 and 2
KT (Ken)
this was the second letter given to elders that turned out to be a "resignation" letter.
this was, as you will see, because they chose not to answer any of our questions.
the reason we are posting our letter, is because it is now obvious (by personal experiences) that ones who we thought were our friends are now choosing to shun us.
This might we worth bringing back to the top to help any new ones on the brink.
Apologies for this long letter but we knew this was our last letter to them, if it helps those who may be contemplating a similar letter that’s fine.
KT
i don't really know where to start on my first post; i feel i have so much to say and yet i am so emotionally tired that it is hard to go through it all again in my head.
but, i do need support and advice and so i will make the effort.. i started having doubts about certain beliefs of the witnesses about 2 years ago and did research since that i now come to the belief there is no god, and witnesses definitely are a cult.. at first it bothered me more on the god issue, but now i am more bothered by the cult issue, mainly because it dictates my life even though i am aware of it.. when i was a child, my mother and father divorced and my mother told me i will live with my father because she was going to die at armageddon being a non witness.
i think, as well as many other pressures i cant list for fear of a very long post, this was the main pressure that made me get baptized even though i wasn't that happy being a witness.
gapingmouth,
I understand how you feel regarding your whole spiritual experience.
The illustration of the two goldfish in the bowl might help;
One day one of the goldfish said "I’m going to become an atheist".
The other one turned round and said " that’s all right, but WHO is going to change the water"
If you really look deep into creation you will see there is a designer /creator and we do need him.
You don’t need the "watchtower" to worship Jehovah, (in my own personal opinion) you don’t need any structured Org. to do that.
KT
if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.
if not........................ kt.
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"People who support Pedophiles,are as guilty as Pedophiles....."
In the case of Ely, who would not take action against his sons when they were doing gross actions against God. (when he should have).
God himself stepped in and took the necessary action against Ely. (we know what happened).
Let us hope that the same principle applies to those, that take NO ACTION , against those offending paedophiles!!! (When it is obvious they should).
KT
if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.
if not........................ kt.
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TEX; If you want to continue playing these little games
2Tim 2v5, Moreover, if anyone contends even in the games, he is not crowned unless he has contended according to the rules!!!
The rules are quite clear, you use the bible, but not to use scripture to blanket anything and everything.
There are many examples showing that clear scripture has to have an element of common sense applied to them.
Getting back to adultery by one partner in a marriage, there have been thousands of disfellowshiped ones that haven't had two witnesses to the event, but have still been disfellowshiped.
This allows paedophiles a wonderful way of evading capture!!!!
KT
once again our lurking jw friend sent us this latest mind control drivel from the " witness only " watchtower.
remember - this is the information our jw relatives will study in their witness meetings at their watchtower study.
this is what they are currently being indoctrinated with.
Flipper,
The awful conclusion is, you could arrive at, is the Governing Body who have disobeyed God, could get away with it as well, terrible thought.
KT
dear readers of revelation,.
i have been reminded that a simple question is more effective than an elaborate presentation.
i have become very careful about what i say and how much i say to most people.
This is definately worth bringing back to the top - especially for all the newbies on here now
KT
