japan had a handful of witnesses after ww 2....this number skyrocketed to 222,912 by 1998!
then something happened.
publisher figures didn't stop, they dropped by thousands over the next decade!.
Thanks 88JM.
I see they are creative with their mathematical rounding.
2012 : 126,536,000 ÷ 216,692 = 583.9. Lets round down to 583 then!
Makes more of a difference if they are this dishonest with the %ge figures though.
And can you imagine putting in 81 million hours only to have the peak pubs and memorial attendance drop year on year?
Splash
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in the last 4 months my eyes have been opened to ttatt, my biggest issue is that the elders have been grooming me to appoint me as an elder.
Why the subterfuge?
Just say that you do not want eldership and you can serve the congregation well enough as an MS.
I bet there are other MS's in your cong who have turned it down or will never be elders.
Just say "No thank you". If asked "why not" say that its not for everyone, and that includes you. You just don't want it.
Splash
i am new here and this is my first post although i have lurked here for a couple years.
i started having doubts about the org back then and my curiosity overcame my fear of so-called apostate websites so here i am.
i just resigned being an elder 2 weeks ago.
When they ask for your book back, tell them you already sold it on ebay!
Welcome!
i have been hearing and reading on websites about some "new light" jws are saying concerning the faithful and discreet slave class.
it sounds like the same information they have been saying for years.
i was always taught the faithful and discreet slave class is the annoited governing body members dispensing food at the proper time for the non annoited jws.
@konceptual99
Here are the salient words from the official website quote.
When Does Jesus Appoint the Slave “Over All His Belongings”?
Jesus’ appointment of the “slave” over his “belongings,” then, must also be a future event. He will make that appointment during the great tribulation.
What Are Jesus’ “Belongings”?
Jesus’ “belongings” thus include more than just his earthly interests. They include the Messianic Kingdom.—Philippians 2:9-11.
Consequently, Jesus will reward “the faithful and discreet slave” by resurrecting the individual members of that group to heavenly life and by giving them royal authority over all Christ’s belongings in heaven and on earth.
Summary:
1. The FDS is appointed over Christ's belongings in the future.
2. The Belongings are both earthly and heavenly.
3. Consequently (therefore) Christ will (future tense) resurrect the members and give them authority over the belongings (which we just learned is future).
Put another way, why would any be resurrected to heaven before they are given roles/authority there, what would they be doing?
So even though the WT have not written it in plain language (do they ever?), what conclusion can you draw except that the FDS resurrection is still future, tied to the approval and reward?
Splash.
i had the pleasure of conducting a telephone interview with "truth be told" filmmaker gregorio smith yesterday.
he is a fascinating, intelligent person and has an intimate knowledge of the destructiveness the watchtower society has wreaked upon people's lives due to shunning, the blood ban, etc.. some two years in the making, this full-length documentary film entitled "truth be told" seeks to expose the watchtower for what it is.
a debut screening for the public will take place in brooklyn new york on march 27, 2013. other major cities will follow.
Will he be entering it as an independent at Cannes?
i have been hearing and reading on websites about some "new light" jws are saying concerning the faithful and discreet slave class.
it sounds like the same information they have been saying for years.
i was always taught the faithful and discreet slave class is the annoited governing body members dispensing food at the proper time for the non annoited jws.
@franticfran
It's true. Of course to become part of the GB/FDS you HAVE to be anointed.
They were all born after 1935 BTW.
Splash
i thought i marked these two threads for future reference, but apparently i did not.. #1) 2012 cdrom:.
i am looking for the cdrom thread.
also, is anyone willing to get me a hard copy of the cdrom?
Sorry Justitia, like Cedars I can't find the threads, just a few quotes:
*** w10 7/15 p. 24 par. 15 “The Spirit Searches Into . . . the Deep Things of God” ***
Carefully researched but written for enjoyment by average readers, all this material deepens our appreciation for spiritual things.—Hab. 2:2.
*** w03 7/1 p. 20 “It Filled a Void in My Heart” ***
Artwork in the Draw Close to Jehovah book was carefully researched and prepared in order to teach and to motivate.
*** w96 1/15 p. 23 Comfort and Encouragement—Gems of Many Facets ***
The articles are written very carefully, often after many weeks or months of painstaking research, study, and prayer.
Splash
i was shocked i do not know why as i have read that the co's were doing this but to hear it with my own ears was unbelievable.
i do not go to the meetings but my husband still does and this week is the co's visit.
i decided that i would listen in to his talk; i swear i have lost some brain cells by doing it but anywho.. he started out by talking about the old story that has been in the wt many times about a little boy who was seven and raised a chicken and gave the money to the society.
Our last CO visit's first talk was also about sacrifices.
We got the widows two coins. Application? Do we put in out of our excess, throwing in what we can afford, or do we make a real sacrifice.
Splash.
i have been hearing and reading on websites about some "new light" jws are saying concerning the faithful and discreet slave class.
it sounds like the same information they have been saying for years.
i was always taught the faithful and discreet slave class is the annoited governing body members dispensing food at the proper time for the non annoited jws.
New Light Key Points:
· The Faithful and Discreet Slave was NOT appointed with the apostles at Pentecost 33CE, meaning that there has not been a continuous line of members of the Slave Class on the earth down through the ages. The Slave Class was only appointed for the first time by Christ in 1919.
· The “domestics” of Matthew 24:45 are all those who are fed spiritually by the Governing Body, whether of the anointed or "other sheep”.
· The events described in Matthew 24:46,47 now refer to Jesus coming during the Great Tribulation and giving the Governing Body their reward in heaven along with the rest of the anointed. This is a postponement compared to the last understanding.
· The “belongings” of Matthew 24:47 refer to all of Christ’s heavenly and earthly interests.
· Despite founding the Watch Tower Society and correctly discerning the pivotal date of 1914, Charles Taze Russell was not part of the Slave Class because he was not alive and serving at Headquarters when Christ made his selection in 1919. He had died in 1916.
· WT 07 1/1 said the 1st resurrection began between 1914-1935 and some resurrected ones are communicating truths to the GB. The new teaching is that this resurrection will not occur until they are judged and appointed over all his belongings in the future.
Splash
3.. why did jesus say that his disciples would not complete their circuit of preaching "until the son of man arrives"?
(matt.
10:23) [jan. 14, w10 9/15 p. 10 par.
So if Jesus is going to judge peoples hearts, why the need for the preaching work?
