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New Outline: ELDERS MEET WITH REGULAR PIONEERS

by pixel in

the outline for the annual meeting with pioneers is out.

it talks about the gb and fds a lot.. look at this:.

those taking the lead have shown that they are not sentimentally attached to material things.. they are willing to move the world headquarters to warwick, new york, because it will advance kingdom interests.

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Jesus / Christ - 4 mentions

God / Jehovah - 4 mentions

F&DS / GB - 14 mentions

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Feb 2014 WT Study article

by molybdenum in

the caption under the picture in the first article.

hail christthe glorious king!says:.

birds will be called on to cleanse the earth (see paragraph 18).

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What a bunch of tits.

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Planning your RETIREMENT. Can anyone remember Watch Tower encouraging, in anyway, it's members to plan ahead for this eventual reality?

by LoisLane looking for Superman in

i cannot think of one article written for jehovah's witnesses that deals with this important issue.. your retirement.. .

the governing body makes sure everyone looks after the gb's needs.

the gb will be moving to their new lakeside estate in 3 years.. what about everyone else below the 8 gb and their wives???.

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*** g 3/09 pp. 5-6 Manage Your Money Wisely ***

Carefully consider your future needs. For instance, if you plan to purchase a house or an apartment, obtaining a mortgage at a reasonable rate may be a good decision. Similarly, a family man may feel the need to purchase life, health, disability, or other forms of insurance to protect his loved ones. Considering your needs for the future may also involve planning for retirement. Proverbs 21:5 reminds us that “the plans of the diligent one surely make for advantage.”

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Is their a table/list comparing what the WT & Awake magazines print that differs from their bound volumes ?

by smiddy in

i have seen quotations from time to time that says the wt & awake magazines have been changed when the bound volumes come out , has anybody ever been able to list these changes ?

and make a comparison .?

to me this is quite deceptive , like speaking out of both sides of your mouth .if you pick them up on one thing then they quote something different , and have the printed page to prove it.surely they need to be nailed down on this.. smiddy.

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These are the only ones I know of:

SEVEN LITERATURE REVISIONS TO WHEN 'THE END' WILL BE

1. Changed from: Watchtower 1989 January 1 p.12 (loose copy magazine):
"He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century."

1. Changed to: Watchtower 1989 January 1 p.12 (from Bound Volume):
"He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our day."

2. Changed from: Awake 1982 - 1995 (Box inside front cover, printed in every magazine):

"Most importantly, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new order before the generation that saw the events of 1914 C.E. passes away.":

2. Changed to: Awake Nov 1995 - Dec 2012 (Box inside front cover, printed in every magazine)

"Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world that is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things.":

(Note: cj chap. 5 p. 197 Chapter 5 - But let your Yes mean Yes, and your No, No)

"For one to use God’s name indiscriminately or lightly, or to be continually affirming statements with oaths, [e.g. 'creator's promise' above] smacks of hypocrisy and turns others away from the form of worship that one advocates."

3. Changed from: Thy Kingdom Come (Studies in the Scriptures Vol.3) (1908) p.228

"That the deliverance of the saints must take place sometime before 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place at that time... Just how long before 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed... With these two thoughts in mind, we can approximate the time of the deliverance."

3. Changed to: Thy Kingdom Come (Studies in the Scriptures Vol.3) (1937) p.228

"That the deliverance of the saints will take place sometime after 1914 is manifest, since the deliverance of fleshly Israel, as we shall see, is appointed to take place thereafter... Just how long after 1914 the last living members of the body of Christ will be glorified, we are not directly informed... With these two thoughts in mind, we can approximate the time of the deliverance."

4. Changed from: Thy Kingdom Come (1904 edition — Millennial Dawn, vol 3) p.342

This measure is 1542 inches, and indicates the year B.C. 1542, as the date at that point. Then measuring down the "Entrance Passage" from that point, to find the distance to the entrance of the "Pit," representing the great trouble and destruction with which this age is to close, when evil will be overthrown from power, we find it to be 3416 inches, symbolizing 3416 years from the above date, B.C. 1542. This calculation shows AD. 1874 as marking the beginning of the period of trouble; for 1542 years B.C. plus 1874 years AD. equals 3416 years. Thus the Pyramid witnesses that the close of 1874 was the chronological beginning of the time of trouble such as was not since there was a nation — no, nor ever shall be afterward.

And thus it will be noted that this "Witness" fully corroborates the Bible testimony on this subject...

4. Changed to: Thy Kingdom Come (1910 edition — Studies In The Scriptures, vol. 3) p.342

This measure is 1542 inches, and indicates the year B.C. 1542, as the date at that point. Then measuring down the "Entrance Passage" from that point, to find the distance to the entrance of the "Pit," representing the great trouble and destruction with which this age is to close, when evil will be overthrown from power, we find it to be 3457 inches, symbolizing 3457 years from the above date, B.C. 1542. This calculation shows AD. 1915 as marking the beginning of the period of trouble; for 1542 years B.C. plus 1915 years AD. equals 3457 years. Thus the Pyramid witnesses that the close of 1914 will be the beginning of the time of trouble such as was not since there was a nation — no, nor ever shall be afterward.

And thus it will be noted that this "Witness" fully corroborates the' Bible testimony on this subject...

5. Changed from: The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life 1968 pg.9 ch.1 Blessings from God Near at Hand!

Also, as reported back in 1960, a former United States Secretary of State, Dean Acheson, declared that our time is "a period of unequalled instability, unequalled violence." And he warned: "I know enough of what is going on to assure you that, in fifteen years from today, [ie in 1975] this world is going to be too dangerous to live in."

5. Changed to: The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life 1981 pg.9 ch.1 Blessings from God Near at Hand!

Also, as reported back in 1960, a former United States Secretary of State, Dean Acheson, declared that our time is "a period of unequalled instability, unequalled violence." Based on what he knew was then going on in the world, it was his conclusion that soon "this world is going to be too dangerous to live in."

(Note: By the time this was published (1981) Dean Acheson's 15 year prediction from 1960 had already expired, so why even mention it?)

6. Changed from: The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life 1968 p.88-89 ch.10

More recently, the book entitled "Famine-1975!" [by W. & P. Paddock, 1967, pp. 52, 55, 61.] said concerning today's food shortages:

"Hunger is rampant throughout country after country, continent after continent around the undeveloped belt of the tropics and subtropics. Today's crisis can move in only one direction - toward catastrophe. Today hungry nations; tomorrow starving nations. By 1975 civil disorder, anarchy, military dictatorships, runaway inflation, transportation breakdowns and chaotic unrest will be the order of the day in many of the hungry nations."

6. Changed to: The Truththat Leads to Eternal Life 1981 p.88-89 ch.10

More recent reports have shown that a constant lack of adequate food, resulting in chronic malnutrition, has become the "major world hunger problem today." The London Times reported:

"There have always been famines, but the scale and ubiquity [presence everywhere] of hunger today is on a totally new scale. . . . Today malnutrition is said to affect more than a thousand million people; perhaps as many as 400 million live constantly on the brink of starvation."-June 3, 1980.

7. Changed from: Revelation Climax (1988) chap. 34 p. 246 par. 1

The John class today also wonders with great wonderment as events unfold in fulfillment of the prophetic vision. If people of the world could see it, they would exclaim, ‘Incredible!’ and the world’s rulers would echo, ‘Unthinkable!’ But the vision becomes a startling 20th-century reality.

7. Changed to: Revelation Climax (1996) chap. 34 p. 246 par. 1

The John class today also wonders with great wonderment as events unfold in fulfillment of the prophetic vision. If people of the world could see it, they would exclaim, ‘Incredible!’ and the world’s rulers would echo, ‘Unthinkable!’ But the vision becomes a startling reality in our day.

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We the rank and file are prophets

by Crazyguy in

i have the elders coming to my home soon and need help finding a watchtower where thay stated that the regular publishers were also prophets, i think it came out about 2007 i think but not sure..

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Awake 6/8/1986 p.9 - JW's are prophets

"You will be interested to learn that God has on earth a people, all of whom are prophets, or witnesses for God. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah's Witnesses."

Reasoning From the Scriptures (1989) p.133 - JW's are prophets

"If any individual claim to represent God but decline to use god's personal name, and make it a practice to express their own opinions on matters, are they measuring up to this important qualification of a true prophet?"

w91 9/1 p. 29 par. 20- JW's are prophets

Still, our efforts are never in vain. Why not? Because we are advertising Jehovah’s name and Kingdom. By our preaching and by our very presence, we are warning the wicked. (Ezekiel 33:33) ["And when it comes true—look! it must come true—they will also have to know that a prophet himself had proved to be in the midst of them."]

w98 7/15 p.12 Beware of a Lack of Faith par. 15 - JW's are prophets

"Paul started his warning with the provisional clause "if you people listen to his own voice." God spoke to his people through Moses and other prophets. Then, Jehovah spoke to them through his Son, Jesus Christ. (Hebrews 1:1, 2) Today, we have God’s complete inspired Word, the Holy Bible. We also have "the faithful and discreet slave," appointed by Jesus to provide spiritual "food at the proper time." (Matthew 24:45-47) Thus, God is still speaking."

w99 10/1 5 "For Everything There Is an Appointed Time" - The FDS are prophets
"For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants the prophets." (Amos 3:7) ... For that purpose God has authorized a "faithful and discreet slave" to provide his people with "their [spiritual] food at the proper time."

w10 7/15 p. 11 par. 18 "What Sort of Persons Ought You to Be!" - JW's are prophets
"At the same time, Jehovah will honor his faithful servants by making it abundantly clear that they were, indeed, his representatives.—Read Ezekiel 2:5; 33:33."

(Eze 2:5) And as for them, whether they will hear or will refrain—for they are a rebellious house—they will certainly know also that a prophet himself happened to be in the midst of them.

(Eze 33:33) And when it comes true—look! it must come true—they will also have to know that a prophet himself had proved to be in the midst of them."

w11 3/15 p. 30 par. 10 - Anointed are prophets

"Like the prophet of old, the Jeremiah class has been given an assignment from the Sovereign of the universe. God’s anointed servants are thus duly authorized to make pronouncements worldwide..."

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

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I hope that by exorcising your demons you can begin to lose your inner rage BluePill2.

I see the WT condemn other religions for the very thing you describe:

*** g90 11/8 p. 31 ‘Our Shame Is Clear to the Whole World’ ***The Times reported: “The Archbishop of Newfoundland has resigned after charges that the Roman Catholic Church’s hierarchy ignored or failed to deal effectively with three years of scandal involving allegations of sexual abuse against altar boys... Usually these cases are hushed up, and no significant disciplinary action is taken. Perhaps a priest is transferred to another parish or duty, where the depravity might start again... And even worse, the church hierarchy failed to act decisively. They were accused of being more concerned about the offending priests than about the victims.

*** g89 1/22 p. 8 Christendom Walks in the Way of Canaan ***During the synod, Higton had presented a sensational dossier of evidence against the homosexual clergy. One was convicted of child molesting but was merely moved to another parish.

*** g89 11/8 p. 28 Watching the World ***Most disturbing is the accusation that sexual abuse in the church not only has been long-standing but has usually been covered up and the offending priest simply moved to another parish where new offenses were sometimes committed... “The recent events put all priests under a cloud of spoken or silent suspicion.”

*** g82 12/22 p. 30 Watching the World ***“For lesser offences, including adultery, divorce or separation, a clergyman can be moved from his parish, temporarily suspended or given a warning.” It is enlightening to contrast the early Christian congregation’s discipline of adulterous members.—1 Corinthians 5:11-13.

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New Article on BEARDS and Attire of Jehovah's Witnesses

by jwfacts in

i have had requests to add an article about beards and jehovah's witnesses.

it is interesting that there is virtually no statement that says a witness cannot have a beard, yet universally they do not have beards.

i have scoured quotes from all the threads on jwn, all references to beard on the cd watchtower library, and copies of elders letters that i have.

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BU2B - I like your reasoning:

(Le 19:27, 28) 27 “‘YOU must not cut YOUR sidelocks short around, and you must not destroy the extremity of your beard. 28 “‘And YOU must not make cuts in YOUR flesh for a deceased soul, and YOU must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves. I am Jehovah.

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November 2013 Our Kingdom Ministry has been slightly adjusted

by WatchTower87 in

we would like to inform you that the question box article published in the november 2013 issue of our kingdom ministry has been slightly adjusted.

the updated version is available for download on jw.org.

in preparing for the item, which is going to be discussed this week, we kindly ask you to use the updated version.

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Or maybe you could just tell us?

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New Article on BEARDS and Attire of Jehovah's Witnesses

by jwfacts in

i have had requests to add an article about beards and jehovah's witnesses.

it is interesting that there is virtually no statement that says a witness cannot have a beard, yet universally they do not have beards.

i have scoured quotes from all the threads on jwn, all references to beard on the cd watchtower library, and copies of elders letters that i have.

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Wasn't there a comparison with Disney at one time, ie Disney doesn't allow men to wear beards?

Also found this quote funny:

*** w05 9/15 p. 10 Who Was Pontius Pilate? ***
"When in uniform, Pilate would have worn a leather tunic and metal breastplate. His public clothing was a white toga with a purple border. He would have had short hair and have been clean-shaven."

So we prefer JW's to look more like the killer of the Lord, than the Lord.

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November 2013 Our Kingdom Ministry has been slightly adjusted

by WatchTower87 in

we would like to inform you that the question box article published in the november 2013 issue of our kingdom ministry has been slightly adjusted.

the updated version is available for download on jw.org.

in preparing for the item, which is going to be discussed this week, we kindly ask you to use the updated version.

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Just read them side by side. No differences.

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