i wonder, is this a new doctrine and when did "reason and scripture" take place.. .
page 25 paragraph 10 dec 15 2013 study wt.
10 the bread that the apostles could see and would soon partake of meant jesus body.
So for over half a century the anointed were partaking of the bread without knowing what it meant.
These included the handpicked and anointed ones of the FDS, from the famous 1914 era.
Picked by Jesus but unaware of what his most important instructions meant.
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this is interesting.. the apostasy project is by the rationalist association and is helping those who wish to leave their religion do so:.
http://apostasy.org.uk/.
direct link to their video:.
Each year there's a resolution to pay for the khall insurance KHAA fund.
Also the CO's car fund TOAA.
Plus a set amount per pub per month for the international convention candidates.
Plus a set amount per pub for the local assembly hall.
Plus keeping extra funds with the SOC so they can invest/get the interest.
Plus CO expenses twice per year.
Plus the DC car parking costs scam.
Plus reminders at the DC, CA and SAD to contribute.
Plus the elders resolutions to give Circuit funds to the branch.
Plus the frequent "give us your money, shares and property" articles.
What have I missed?
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this is interesting.. the apostasy project is by the rationalist association and is helping those who wish to leave their religion do so:.
http://apostasy.org.uk/.
direct link to their video:.
Last weeks wt study (13 12/15)
Open verses: 1 chronic 29:9 - make voluntary offerings. 1 cor 16:1 - the collection, set aside something. 2 cor 8:13 - give what you have.
Par 1: "make sacrifices, give money, Kingdom interests, give up much, support the kigdom, make sacrifices, support the kingdom"
Par 3: "Support the kingdom, make sacrifices, generous spirit, Additional sacrifices, money, voluntary sacrifices"
Par 5: "not all could give the same, Offered what they could. Even the poor can sacrifice"
Par 8: "money. It costs to make a sacrifice"
Par 10: "money. Significant funds needed. Millions spent. Expenses. Voluntary donations."
Par 11: " Donations. Set aside funds. Give generously. Giving spirit."
Par 14: "brothers in poverty can give"
Par 15: "Poor Africans give funds. Give in proportion"
Par 17: "have a giving spirit. Be generous"
Par 18: "Pray to have a large share supporting kingdom interests"
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we asked this person if it could be aqbout the terminology change and they said that was already read last week...... we remember the last time they did this.
got everyone all excited thinking the big "a" was coming and all it was about, was the literature would now be donated instead of charging for it.. .
Yes Gayle, it's bound to be that.
And the new names for Distric Assemblies etc.
It will all be forgotten in a week or two.
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law school is obviously not the hardest program to follow.
it isn't something that can be replicated on the internet.
a first year student can find the law.
Hi BOTR,
I've seen you upset with other posters before, and I've always hoped that would not stop you from contributing.
I'm not into law, I specialised in other things but can see the same as you - Someone who has years of study/training, decades of experience, a real world value, and the comments you offer are ridiculed or tossed away.
For me, I actually get a sick sense of glee from it. I think "ok, let's see how this turns out for you then" and sit back to enjoy the show.
I've upset many people by saying that some are put on this earth for the amusement of others. Seems harsh? Well some are simply past the point of being educatable.
I look out for your posts and even cross-reference them with previous info you've posted. For me it would be a real shame if you stopped posting.
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back in 1985 my then-wife and i were having a lunchtime "gathering" at our place to show some support to the ones in our congregation who were full-time pioneers.
i had just recently received the vinyl collection of the songs featured in the song book "sing praises to jehovah" which had been released the previous year.. .
many of these melodies sounded depressing to me although i would have never admitted it at the time.
There was a letter a couple of months ago instructing all congregations to download the latest 'improved' music from the jw website, for playing at the Hall.
Some songs were so hard to sing they changed them a bit, and all of them had a higher bitrate quality.
Why do we call them 'songs' when they are more properly called 'hymns' (from Hymnos) - religious songs?
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http://www.borehamwoodtimes.co.uk/news/11016729.former_home_of_cardif_pinnacle_bought_by_jehovah_s_witnesses/.
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the former home of an insurance company will now be used to store bibles by a christian sect.. jehovah's witnesses have bought 1 elstree way in borehamwood, formerly known as pinnacle place, from cardif pinnacle for 4,928,000.. the building will be used by the international bible students association, a corporation of the jehovah's witnesses which distributes bibles and other religious literature.. the non-profit organisation currently operates out of properties throughout mill hill and borehamwood, with headquarters in the ridgeway in mill hill.. it employs 700 people in printing, storing and distributing religious literature throughout britain, europe and africa.. a spokesman for the jehovahs witnesses said the association had outgrown its existing premises and had bought the large building to consolidate its operations.. it will use the new acquisition to store magazines, pamphlets and bibles as well as making full use of the office space.. however it will continue to maintain its headquarters in mill hill, where the literature is printed.. the sale went through in december and the international bible students association is currently preparing the building so it can move in.. jehovahs witnesses are best known for their door-to-door evangelical work, offering bible literature and recruiting and converting people to their beliefs.. the spokesman for the movement said: we are all about bible education and we print biblical literature to distribute around the world.. the people of borehamwood will probably not notice anything different as we are making no changes to the actual building, which is why we did not need planning permission..
Unless they are exempt because of having charity status, that purchase would have cost them £750,000 (15%) in stamp duty alone!
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within the last few years i understand watchtower has issued a concession (no apology) of minor proportion.
they don't admit to the avalanche of some 8 sequential positions (yes, no, yes, no, ...) of, "will the sodomites receive a resurrection?".
i think they admit to about three of them.
I think the full list is:
WILL THE MEN OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH BE RESURRECTED?
1879 YES WT July, 1879 p.8
1952 NO WT 6/1/52 p.338
1965 YES WT 8/1/65 p.479
1967 NO WT 1/7/67 p.409
1974 YES Awake! 8/10/74 p.20
1988 NO WT 6/1/88 p.31
1988 SOME WILL Insight On The Scriptures, Vol.1, p.616
1988 YES Insight On The Scriptures, Vol.2, p.985
1988 NO Revelation - Its Grand Climax p.273
1988 YES You Can Live Forever... p.179 (Old Edition)
1988 NO You Can Live Forever... p.179 (New Edition)
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they use poor reasoning, they wiggle around the question and ignore the fact the watchtower was affiliated with the united nations.
this website fails to ignore the facts that we were not allowed to join the ymca even though we did not follow the charter rules, the watchtower agreed to follow the un charter and did so from 1992 to 2001 when the scandal was exposed.. .
have any of you seen works to debunk their slanted arguments and dishonest play of words?.
Some JW apologists are so aggressive, so angry.
It's a real vitriolic hatred for any who dare question, let alone expose, the leadership. Not Christlike in any sense of the word.
This must be a recognised mental condition that when you are undermined by fact, logic and reason, the only recourse you have is to scream at everyone that they are still wrong and call them vile names.
I find it quite bizarre but not uncommon. They are being fed sour milk from a withered teat but choose to stay blind to it, telling themselves it's the choicest meal.
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the wts?.
we request of you not to be quickly shaken from your reason.2 thess.
(1 tim.
Thanks Blondie, this was a brilliant WT.
Para 5 mocks those who got excited and said that Jehovah's day was imminent, then para's 9, 13 and 17 stress how Jehovah's day is imminent!!
The irony is totally missed by all in the hall.
And lots of 'do more' this week. Oh, and a dollop of 'obey'.
Come to think of it, the same old same old.
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