Posts by Splash

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

jw
friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Splash

TTTE They have made major blunders and mistakes

When other religions make 'blunders and mistakes' the WT condemn them as 'false religious philosophies', 'false doctrines' and 'nauseating teachings'.

When WT makes 'blunders and mistakes' they are described as 'misplaced zeal', 'old truths' and 'cherished errors'.

(Mt 7:1-5) "for with what judgment YOU are judging, YOU will be judged; and with the measure that YOU are measuring out, they will measure out to YOU."

Let me explain something to you.
Your average JW does not believe the Bible, they believe whatever the GB says the Bible means.
When the GB change their minds, so do 7 million JW's. They are that fickle and shallow.

If you disagree, please start a new thread defending the overlapping generations using the Bible.
Or the concept of New Scrolls.

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LATEST NEWS: CANDANCE CONTI VERIDICT READY - WT LOST!!!!!!!

by Viva la Vida in

jw
friends

i'm not an expert but that is my understanding of this: .

opinion filed.. (signed published) the judgment against defendants on the negligence count is affirmed.

the judgment against watchtower on the cause of action for punitive damages is reversed with directions to enter judgment for watchtower on punitive damages.

Splash

cappytan has it right.

Under "scheduled actions" there is a Remittitur issued with a date of 15th June.

This is an instruction to lower the punitive damages.

There will still be punitive damages, however.

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

jw
friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Splash

As a group JWs ARE the only ones trying to do what God requires despite all their faults and misunderstand of many many texts.

Supposing you had a doctor that tried to do what the medical profession requires, but constantly harmed people instead. You take the doctors advice and follow a course of medication only to be told later that that was wrong, you should have been on different medication. You switch medication according to the doctors advice, then find he had misadvised you and the first medication was actually correct.

You confront the doctor and he denies he told you anything different even though you have the paperwork to prove it. Then he reports you to the police for slander and the community kick you out.

You later learn that the Dr. has done the same thing to thousands of other ill patients, some of them dying as a result of the malpractise.

Would you be singing that Dr.'s praises, telling people to grow up and not look for the bad because some people were helped?
Tread carefully - you are in a room full of abused patients who have personally experienced the harmful effects of the WT and can prove to you that the WT is as flawed as any other religion.

What's that famous illustration about one drop of poison in a glass of water? No doubt you apply it to other religions. If you refuse to see that it applies equally to the WT then you are deceiving yourself. Good luck with your mental health - I know a good doctor you might want to try.

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WT addresses the "rapture" teaching.

by wifibandit in

look at paragraph 15 of the 2015 july 15th study edition pg 18-19.. http://imgur.com/3wparys.

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basically they admit to teaching the rapture (for the anointed remnant), just don't call it that!.

Splash

Does this mean their other teaching that some have already been resurrected since 1919 is also obsolete?

These ones were said to be involved in communicating new light down to the GB.

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

jw
friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Splash

(John 14:13, 14) Also, whatever you ask in my name, I will do this, so that the Father may be glorified in connection with the Son. If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.

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Recycled WTS beliefs

by Simon in

we all know the wts abandons and invents beliefs faster than apple can churn out new shiny stuff.

but have they ever abandoned a belief and later picked it up again?.

i remember many years ago we had one of those post-district-assembly review parts (part of the service meeting) where they were discussing some "new light".. there was some confusion about which was the "new" and which was the "old" and a semi-discussion ensued with people commenting.

Splash

What about Michael? Wasn't there a flip flop on him?

WHO IS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL?
- An angel, not the Son of God - Zion's Watch Tower 1879, November p.4
- The Papacy - Zion's Watch Tower 1879 December p.6
- Jesus, not an angel - Zion's Watch Tower March, 1883, p.456
- The Pope of Rome - The Finished Mystery, 1917 p.188 and 1926 Edition, p.188
- Jesus Christ, the Son of God - 1930's onwards (see Reasoning From the Scriptures, 1985, p.218)

See here - JW Facts, third subheading down.

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Recycled WTS beliefs

by Simon in

we all know the wts abandons and invents beliefs faster than apple can churn out new shiny stuff.

but have they ever abandoned a belief and later picked it up again?.

i remember many years ago we had one of those post-district-assembly review parts (part of the service meeting) where they were discussing some "new light".. there was some confusion about which was the "new" and which was the "old" and a semi-discussion ensued with people commenting.

Splash

There were quite a few listed in this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/265257/ttatt-can

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

jw
friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Splash

Hezekiah asked for a sign, and Isaiah assisted.
(2 Kings 20:8) “What is the sign to show that Jehovah will heal me and that I will go up on the third day to the house of Jehovah?”
The sun's shadow went backwards.

Moses asked God for a sign and got a leprous hand that was then cured.

Jehovah set up a sign for Cain so that noone finding him would strike him.

The rainbow is a sign from God.

Aaron's rod produced flowers, as a sign.

The Psalmist prayed "(Psalm 86:17) Show me a sign of your goodness."

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Governing Body Sheep Fleecing - Official!

by The Searcher in

fellow witnesses - do you think the kingdom hall belongs to you, just because you all paid for it and personally finance its maintenance?

think again, sheep!

the "shepherds" have announced the fleecing in black & white for you, in case you decide to question them!.

Splash

In our last Local Needs there was some information about the new LDC arrangement, and a new statement that the GB want congregations to keep their KHalls for one year more than usual before a refit or new build, and this will save the society $80 million per year. That was the figure read out, I'm presuming from a BOE letter.

To facilitate this the congregation was encouraged to take more care of the KHall and make sure all rudimentary maintenance is carried out promptly (examples given were decoration, plumbing, electrics) by the local brothers.

Ties in with The Searcher's conclusion in the OP - It all belongs to the Society now.

This looks to be the result of the famous July 2013 WT changes when it was shown that the F&DS have not yet been appointed over all Christs belongings, meaning that the KHalls did not, in fact, belong to the GB as previously taught. As a result, maybe some congregations thought the KHalls now belonged to them. This latest WT has stamped on that idea!

What I wonder is, if a KHall or bethel is dedicated to Jehovah, who has the right to undedicate it and sell it?
When they say "Therefore, it cannot rightly be said to belong to any individual or congregation", why does this not also include "or any organisation"?

They are greedy and manipulative.

(Edit to add: I see Bobcat had the same thought!)

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NEW 2012 Elders book with 2015 Amendments

by Newly Enlightened in

thanks to jw archive wiki we have a pdf of the new elders book.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz9z38909t3fh7c/2012-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-ks10_e.pdf?dl=0.

Splash

Tell them its only a picture of the front page, not the actual book.