From two weeks earlier in the same paper:
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Do You Think They Will Have Donuts?
by Atlantis inhttp://www.halsteadgazette.co.uk/news/halstead_news/12919606.open_day_at_kingdom_hall_of_jehovah___s_witnesses_in_halstead/
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Pacquiao vs Mayweather
by Clambake ini have a ton of filipino friends and this is huge.
manny is a huge underdog but it is literally good vs evil.
go manny .
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Splash
Mayweather will size Pacquiao up for a few rounds, tire him out for a few more, then make his move in the 8th round onwards.
Pacquiao might land a few but Mayweather can take it on the chin.
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4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28
by Atlantis inwe thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.
click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).
.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.
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Splash
Why would I want to discuss my medical situation, or give my life and death decisions to a bunch of plumbers, mechanics and window washers???
My local Secretary elder is so incompetent he barely knows how to use a telephone (yes, really!) and as such tries to dodge every responsibility he has by passing the buck and pointing the finger at everyone else.
Putting any decision in the hands of people like that is the same as throwing your life away.
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CO says "WE ARE NOW AT THE THRESHOLD OF THE THE GREAT TRIBULATION!"
by nowwhat? in40-50 years after saying "armegeddon is right around the corner" we are now making progress!!!.
gotta have a sense of humor to deal with this stuff..
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Splash
We've heard the same going back to 1883!
Here are three more extracts to compliment Blondies earlier:w1883 October p.2 - Now we are just at the threshold of the age of glory.
w1908 January 1st p.6 - Thus we find ourselves at the threshold of what we believe to be the last seven years of this Gospel dispensation.(7 years later):
w1915 January 15th p.29 - And now we realize that we stand on the threshold of the Kingdom, and that possibly our next report will not be to Brooklyn, but to Headquarters beyond the veil. -
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is this still a belief? no 'marraige' after being resurected?
by sowhatnow ini was having a discussion with my sister yesterday, and she said to me,'mom told me that if dad dies at armageddon, she cant get remarried in the new system' .
i told he i have never heard such a thing, but i do recall that it was believed that anyone who dies now, cannot be married in the 'new world' because they are to be as angels in heaven.. she said , so why be resurrected if yiu cant live your dream of having a loving mate and perfect children?
god is still dictating to you how you will live.
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Good old WT flip flopping.
RESURRECTED ONES CAN MARRY?
Women may be turned into men - Golden Age 1930, April 2. P. 446 Bible Questions and Answers
Whether the identity of the sexes, as such, will be preserved, we do not know. There have been some well authenticated instances in which women have been transformed into men, and it is possible that this transformation may become general and we shall all be brothers together.
YES - 1943 "The Truth Shall Make You Free" p.362 - 364
[Evil ones] will not come forth [in the resurrection] to take part in the divine mandate [filing the earth], because that will have been completed by the Lord's "other sheep".
NO - w50 10/15 p. 381 "Be Fruitful, Multiply, Fill the Earth"
Nor will the resurrected multitudes be privileged to do so, for Jesus plainly stated that such will not marry nor be given in marriage
Even survivors won't marry - w54 9/15 p. 575 Questions From Readers
After that final test there will definitely be no marrying or being given in marriage then by those counted worthy of the new world and having the right to eternal life, just as angels have that right
YES - w54 9/15 p. 575 Questions From Readers
It is even reasonable and allowable to entertain the comforting thought that those of the other sheep who now die faithful will have an early resurrection and live during the time when the procreation mandate is being fulfilled and when paradise conditions are being spread earth-wide and that they will share in this divinely given service.
NO - w56 10/1 p. 601 par. 9 'He That Marries Not Does Better'
She died single, and that without the hope of enjoying married life in God's new world after she is resurrected from the dead.
NO - w61 11/15 p. 704 Questions From Readers
for dead ones with spiritual, heavenly hopes and for dead ones with earthly Paradisaic hopes the rule enunciated by Jesus Christ stands unaltered: "In the resurrection neither do men marry nor are women given in marriage"
NO - w67 10/15 p. 638 Questions From Readers
Jesus' words apply to the earthly resurrection, and they indicate that those resurrected will not marry or be reunited in a marriage relationship with former mates.
YES / MAYBE - w14 8/1 page 29+30, questions from readers
"Could Jesus be referring only to the heavenly resurrection?" "It is possible"
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Evidence based folks: what is your stance on GMO's and why?
by cappytan inso, the anti-gmo movement scored another victory today.
chipotle has opted to only use non-gmo food items.. hooray for them.
i'm pretty neutral on the subject, mostly because, other than questionable treatment of farmers, i have seen no evidence to avoid gmo's for health reasons.. basically, my neutrality boils down to the stance that i'll buy non-gmo, so long as the price is reasonable.
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Splash
If it means we can produce more food globally, make it pest, disease and drought resistant, store it longer and it's safe to eat, I'm for it.
The downside is that it's often more expensive to buy the seed in the first place and it often has its reproductive gene turned off so you have to buy new every year instead of keep some back each year to replant.
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When will JW.ORG appear on convention name tags?
by kairos ini have not seen the logo on a name tag, yet.. will this year be the first time jws are encouraged to walk around advertising a web site?.
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The parable of a king who forgives a slaves debt
by Splash inin the streamed program from bethel uk this weekend, mark sanderson relates the parable from mt 18:23-35 where a master forgives the huge debt of a slave, but when the slave refuses to forgive a small debt owed to himself, the master throws that slave into prison.. look at the details of this parable.. the master is owed 10,000 talents.
this is 10's of millions of dollars, completely unpayable.
this represents our sin which we cannot pay for.. the slave begs for more time, so the master "lets the slave off and cancelled his debt" (vs 27).
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Splash
In the streamed program from Bethel UK this weekend, Mark Sanderson relates the parable from Mt 18:23-35 where a master forgives the huge debt of a slave, but when the slave refuses to forgive a small debt owed to himself, the master throws that slave into prison.
Look at the details of this parable.
The master is owed 10,000 talents. This is 10's of millions of dollars, completely unpayable. This represents our sin which we cannot pay for.
The slave begs for more time, so the master "lets the slave off and cancelled his debt" (vs 27). This represents Gods undeserved kindness and forgiveness.
That slave is, in turn, owed 100 talents by a different slave. The slave begs for more time to pay it back, but instead of showing mercy the first slave has the second slave thrown into prison until he can pay the debt. This represent how we should show forgiveness to those who sin against us - being mindful that we have already been forgiven our debt.
Lastly, word gets back to the master about this slaves unforgiving behaviour, so the master lectures him then "With that his master, provoked to wrath, handed him over to the jailers until he repaid all that he owed." (vs 34).
What's the point of the parable? Vs 35 answers that this is how God will deal with each of us.
What is never highlighted although is clear in the parable, is that cancelling a debt, forgiving the slave, is a lie. When something is cancelled it should go. God punishes the slave for doing what he was entitled to do, and the punishment is to repay a debt that was already cancelled. That debt was never cancelled at all.
Maybe the master, unlike the slave, had so much money he could afford to write off such a debt, but once done, how ethical is it to say that it is retrospectively conditional on terms not yet revealed.
I thought it ironic that the GB fit the description of that first slave so thoroughly, demanding more and more from the lowly publishers to the point that some are imprisoned, yet here is Mark Sanderson blindly and guiltily relating this parable, following it up with demands for more effort, money, time, and bible studies.
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Governing Body Public Address - today!
by diamondblue1974 inany ideas what this is about?
- apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.
anyone heard anything about this?.
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Splash
Plus a new goal for every UK publisher - everyone has to have a goal of getting a new bible study. If you already have one, your goal is to get two (that means YOU, parents!)
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Questions for those that believe in Electricity
by OnTheWayOut inyou can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.
well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.
and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.
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Splash
Short scientific experiment with an electric fence