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  Mr Jackson declines to appear in RC

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3

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  Splash

  G.Jackson did the monthly broadcast in Nov 2014 and again in June 2015.

  Let's see how well he does on TV, live and without an auto-cue.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  kookie How the JW trolls and apologists are answering all this is to give information on other religions and their problems and society in general,

  There is nothing else they can do but this.

  In the face of being found culpable with no excuses, the only thing they can say is "look over there instead".
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  Instructions To Elders Re: Pursuing Higher Education

  by baldeagle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  underlining is mine.. march 6, 2012 letter.

  pursue divine education:some of our brothers are pursuing higher education, feeling that they can acquire a measure of financial security.

  as you are aware, the educational system varies from country to country.

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  Splash

  "acquiring a measure of financial security" is easy to do when you have 7 million followers being coerced, non stop, for more and more money. It also helps that you can turf congregations out of their kingdom halls when you need to sell a few buildings.

  Let's see the WT become self sufficient instead of sponging off it's poor members.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  Splash

  kookie hope you don't mind Splash if I c/p your reply saves me typing.

  Feel free. Be aware that I only quickly counted the figures in the pdf, not put them into a spreadsheet, so the figures may be out by one or two.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  Splash

  Angus Stewart discredited that '300' figure.
  The WT merely scanned their files for the word "police" and conveniently assumed the police had been involved each time that word was found.

  Angus said that the word "police" may have been used in a sentence such as "police were not informed", but the WT counted this as an incident where the police were informed, simply because the word 'police' was used.

  If any were reported to the police, then the WT's own records (linked to in the OP) show that this was not done by the JW's in any single instance.

  This is a perfect example of Theocratic Warfare being used. Another term for Deception.
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  Huge list of victims

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.reddit.com/domain/childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/.compact.

  i pressed all the wrong buttons.

  here it is, posted about an hour ago..

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  Splash

  By the numbers:

  1006 Abusers
  63 Ministerial Servants
  42 Elders
  28 Abusers appointed at a later date
  124 Not investigated because there were not 2 witnesses
  128 Confessions but no JC formed
  398 Disfellowshipped
  236 Reinstated
  1730 Victims
  0 Reported to the police by JW's
  
  
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  Extremely difficult situation the .Org is in

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as far as i can imagine, the .org is in a lose, lose, lose situation right now.

  if jackson shows to the rc, and policy chages, then bible interpretation was changed sans-holy spirit.

  policy change is an admission of guilt, not helpful in future civil court cases.

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  Splash

  This organisation has more spin than a plate balancing act.

  I'm expecting the rumour mill to go into action, creating more urban myths around how the RC learned so much from JW's, that the elders were commended for being ahead of even the secular experts, how every objection was overturned by the scriptures and how the conclusion of the whole Royal Commission was that JW's have the best systems they have ever seen, and oh so much better than the Catholics.

  Truth counts for very little in these circumstances and JW's are desperate to hear this. When they do it will settle every concern they have and will be the go-to response to any discussion about it.
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  A Limerick for Geoffrey

  by JustVisting in

  1. social
  2. humour

  there once was a man from down under,who's speech was thought of like thunder,.

  but when pops came dow ill,.

  geoff flew in with a pill.

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  Splash

  An anointed Australian called Geoffrey
  Was part of a group called the GB
  With lawyers and money
  He thought it was funny
  To avoid being seen at the RC.

  But a Senior Counsel called Stewart
  On a mission to expose every pervert
  Thwarted all Geoffrey's plans
  Put some cuffs on his hands
  Brought him into the court, made him take part.

  The evidence he gave was revealing
  That JC's were harsh and unfeeling
  From the lies which abounded
  The Judge was dumb founded
  And witnesses worldwide left reeling

  So GB, please listen and know
  There's no hiding place you can go
  Thick elders cannot
  Protect all you lot
  In the end you will reap what you sow
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  Mr Jackson declines to appear in RC

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3

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  Splash

  They already paid $10,500,000 to protect Losche from taking the stand.

  This was the punitive judgement element of a $13,500,000 abuse payout against the WTB&TS.
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  Can disassociated ones get reinstated without proving repentance?

  by maksutov in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the jw high-ups questioned by the australian royal commission (i think it was o'brien) stated that those who had disassociated (as opposed to being disfellowshipped) do not have to undergo a lengthy reinstatement procedure of proving repentance over many months, but can simply ask to be reinstated immediately.

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of this ever happening?.

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  Splash

  You are said to DA yourself if you do any number of things, including taking a blood transfusion.

  If it were as easy as O'Brien makes out, you could DA, take a blood transfusion, then get reinstated.

  That would not be allowed to happen.