Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

by freemindfade in

so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

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WT expect their shunning policies to continue unchallenged.

When you can freely leave without fear and threat of losing contact with your family, then it won't matter that they are baptising children.

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Forms-S-62/--S-29/--S-77/!

by Atlantis in

if these forms have already been posted then just delete this post!.

.. forms you may want!.

.. click the green download button.. .. 2015 recommendations for appointment of elders and ministerial servants-s-62-e. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/ilrtgal.

I notice the S-77 disfellowshipping form still asks the question:
"Did the individual confess, or are there at least two witnesses to the occurrence of wrongdoing or to the same kind of wrongdoing? (ks10 5:37)"

Will they never humble themselves?

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Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

by freemindfade in

so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

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freemindfade Information is more available than ever now, and the kids can more easily access it, get them to sign the contract sooner and lock them in.

Preferably before they are old enough to be allowed an internet connected smartphone.

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THE WATCHTOWER (STUDY EDITION) JANUARY 2016

by wifibandit in

pdf .

this issue contains the study articles for february 29 to april 3, 2016.. what about the number of those partaking at the memorial?12, 13. why should we not worry about the number of those who eat the bread and drink the wine at the memorial?12 in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christs death.

that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.

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cappytan From the May 15, 1999 Watchtower.

That looks like Gerrit Loesch there at the back, signing Bibles.

What revelation made him realise that this is now indecent?

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Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

by freemindfade in

so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

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The WT standard practice is to find a scripture, any scripture, to back up their teachings.

For child baptisms there is not a single one.

But that's ok, because what the GB says is more important than what the Bible says.

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Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

by freemindfade in

so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

Splash

They use fear and threat to get parents to pressure their children into baptism, but they rarely remind the parents:

*** w07 1/15 p. 20 Remaining Steadfast When a Child Rebels ***
If your child is unrepentant and is a baptized Christian, he may receive the strongest form of discipline—being disfellowshipped from the congregation. The extent of contact that you will then have with him depends on his age and other circumstances.

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Call For Children To Get Baptised From CO

by freemindfade in

so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.

yesterday i went for the co's last talks.

older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.

Splash

SUITABLE AGE FOR BAPTISM

*** w06 4/1 pp. 27-28 par. 8 Meeting the Requirements for Christian Baptism ***
Are children in a position to make an intelligent dedication? The Scriptures give no age requirements for baptism. Still, infants certainly could not become believers, exercise faith, or make a dedication to God. (Acts 8:12) Regarding first-century Christians, historian Augustus Neander states in his book General History of the Christian Religion and Church: “Baptism was administered at first only to adults, as men were accustomed to conceive baptism and faith as strictly connected.”

*** w89 1/15 p. 13 par. 17 What Prevents You From Getting Baptized? ***
Clearly, baptism is a serious step. Baptizing an infant is wrong because a baby cannot understand, make a decision, and become a disciple. (Matthew 28:19, 20) Those baptized during Philip's ministry in Samaria were "men and women," not mere infants. (Acts 8:4-8, 12) Baptism is for those old enough to learn, believe, and exercise faith. (John 17:3; Acts 5:14; 18:8; Hebrews 11:6) In this regard, historian Augustus Neander wrote: "Faith and baptism were always connected with one another; and thus it is in the highest degree probable . . . that the practice of infant baptism was unknown [in the first century C.E.]. . . . That it first became recognised as an apostolic tradition in the course of the third century, is evidence rather against than for the admission of its apostolic origin."—History of the Planting and Training of the Christian Church by the Apostles (New York, 1864), page 162.

*** w76 9/15 p. 576 Questions From Readers ***
But is the child able to make personal decisions, able to decide from his own mind and heart (not that of the parents) the course in life he wishes to take? Is he capable of comprehending and seeking a personal relationship with God, one that is not dependent upon his parents? Is he able to stand before a judicial body, accountable for any wrongdoing he may commit? If not, then such child is evidently not in position to be baptized

w62 6/1 p. 330 par. 3 Why Be Baptized?
it would be improper for infants to be baptized. One must know why he is baptized. Very young children would be lacking in understanding. It is true that Christ Jesus said: "Let the young children come to me." But there is no record that he baptized any young children or commanded that they be baptized.

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" I am the door " John 10:9 - Has anyone seen this before?

by Esse quam videri in

' i am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

does anyone have information on this door?

it is a wood door with book-matched veneer.

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Is it the door to a barbers shop?

"If any man enter in, he shall be shaved."

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And now for something really controversial !

by jhine in

ok , the new james bond theme .

is it really a bond theme ?

i'm not sure , no mention of the film title , no nod to bond at all .

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I heard that Robbie Williams (ex Take That) wanted the role.

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vent: Got into it this morning with my wife agian. younger son wants to go to a B-day, i said he could...she turned cult.

by goingthruthemotions in

yep, he told her that he wants to go a friends b-day...keep in mind it's not until december.

well anyway i told her i didn't mind if he did and i would take him.

yep, enter cult mode.....i hate this freaking cult.

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Job 3:1 "...Job...began to call down evil upon his day (yome)"
Job 3:3 "Let the day (yome) perish on which I came to be born"

'yome' is here referring to Job's birthday.

Job 1:4 "And his sons went and held a banquet at the house of each one on his own day (yome)"

On Job 1:4 Barnes commentary adds:
Perhaps it refers only to their birthdays; see Job_3:1, where the word “day” is used to denote a birthday. In early times the birthday was observed with great solemnity and rejoicing.

Clarke commentary adds:
Feasted in their houses, every one his day - It is likely that a birthday festival is here intended. When the birthday of one arrived, he invited his brothers and sisters to feast with him; and each observed the same custom.

This isn't concrete, but it's certainly a better argument than the WT's "the only examples of birthdays are bad", which is incorrect because it fails to mention Noahs' birthday in Gen 8:13 where something GOOD happened - the waters of the flood had drained away.

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