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  This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?

  nothing better to do with your time?.

  you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.

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  Splash

  people refusing to think call those that DO "trolls".
  

  JW's refusing to think call those that DO "apostates".
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  This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?

  nothing better to do with your time?.

  you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.

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  Splash

  I left because the truths I learned at baptism are no longer the truths today, and today's truths will be changed again tomorrow. It's like chasing shadows. What I was told was vital spiritual food turned out to be junk food.

  If the GB don't even know what's going on, why should I trust them?

  Or as the WT itself put it:
  

  -- g70 4/22 p. 8 Changes That Disturb People

  "Yes, millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong. Have you, too, felt discouragement or even despair because of what is happening in your church? A businessman in Colombia expressed the effect the changes have had on many."Tell me," he asked, "how can I have confidence in anything? How can I believe in the Bible, in God, or have faith? Just ten years ago we Catholics had the absolute truth, we put all our faith in this. Now the pope and our priests are telling us this is not the way to believe any more, but we are to believe 'new things.' How do I know the 'new things' will be the truth in five years?"

  I've faced up to it, JW's are no closer to the truth than anyone else.

  You can continue to pretend if you like - good luck to you.
  
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  "It is the victims right to approach authorities" The weak excuse used by the society

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  we have seen that the society falls back on the line "it is the victims right to approach the authorities" during all the abuse claims.. they use this excuse to try and defend the passive lack of action in failing to report suspected cases of abuse.. a comparison came to mind:.

  if we came across a person lying in the street who says they were hit by a car, would we say "it is your absolute right to call the paramedics and police"?.

  or would we take the initiative and call those authorities ourselves to help the person?.

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  Splash

  For at least 35 years the position of the WT was:

  *** g79 3/8 p. 12 Living with Law—Now and Forever ***
  But for handling most differences between Christians, men well grounded in Biblical principles are available in the congregations. They are even now helping many to resolve such matters without the public notice and consequent reproach of court action. In some cases Christian love may even move one to “suffer injury” rather than harm the good name of the congregation before those outside.

  
  

  But there was an adjustment in 2014:

  
  

  *** lv (God's Love - 2014) p. 223 Resolving Disputes in Business Matters (footnote)***
  In rare instances, one Christian might commit a serious crime against another—such as rape, assault, murder, or major theft. In such cases, it would not be unchristian to report the matter to the authorities, even though doing so might result in a court case or a criminal trial.

  
  

  Plus there's the difference between what's written in the pages and what's said by the elders.
  It would be very rare for an elder to condone going to the police. For a start he would need the agreement and concensus of other elders, and for the majority, contacting the police is just too shameful for the congregation.
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  Dose Wt really have that much cash.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i realize that wt has got a wind fall of cash through various means.

  so my question is in the greater scheme of things is it really that much.

  for example let's say with all their real estate and cash on hand they are worth about $20 billion dollars.

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  Splash

  Selling capital assets to pay the operational expenses is not a sustainable business model.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  Splash

  WT like many other organisations has had many child abusers amongst it's ranks. WT is no different to any other organisation in this regard. No different.

  What It does so badly, worse than other organisations, is it retraumatises the child with its woeful investigation procedures, it puts the name of God above justice for the vulnerable, it allows offenders to be in a position to reoffend, and the congregations and society in general are left unprotected.

  These massive failures from an organisation that claims to have God's exclusive blessing. It is taking the superior worldly justice systems to drag the WT out of its deluded bubble, forcing them to improve their disastrous and harmful rules.

  To see the GB lie and squirm in front of judges is shameful, yet they piously exhibit no shame. Thank God for the world's justices bringing them to account at last, as they would arrogantly continue in their damaging policies if it were not for lawful decent people stopping them.
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  All About The Words We Used

  by dubstepped in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.

  i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.

  watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".

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  Splash

  HEAD KNOWLEDGE

  I was once interrogated by the elders as to my study habits.
  I explained that I like studying and do it regularly, using both JW and non-JW sources.

  Expecting commendation I was then asked "but do you do this just for head knowledge?"

  Stunned.
  So even when you do what you're supposed to, you are still under suspicion.

  Besides, what other knowledge is there except for that which is stored in your head?
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  Video Showing Where in the World Jehovah's Witnesses Have been Active, 1926-2016

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after many, many days of learning how to write macros in excel and cleaning up a lot of data, i finally have the desired result: a timeline of where jehovah's witnesses have been active since 1926.there are some notes:1) "korea" was assumed to be both north and south korea up until 1950.

  (i chose 1950 because that is the same year russia and other communist countries went "banned").2) morocco and western sahara are considered as one.3) in the years previous to 1947, i had to read the yearbook reports and make an educated guess as to whether i should include in the report or not.

  my requirements were: not banned, report was for an entire year if there was more than one witness in the land, reports were official and not second hand.

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  Splash

  Very interesting, thanks for the hard work!

  I hope you will share the excel once you're done as well, this could be the basis for many such analyses.
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  Short stay

  by midnight in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.

  midnight..

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  Splash

  How does that JW illustration go...

  Would you drink a glass of clear looking water if someone told you there was a single drop of poison in it?

  I guess that only applies to every other religion then.
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  Truly I say to you, Amen I say to you, Inferences from a Gospel manner of speech

  by kepler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in another topic changes in the nwt, one of the correspondents posted that.

  concerning the comma in luke 23:43, http://www.dtl.org/alt/comments/today.htmhas some interesting comments.. .

  to summarize what was stated at this website, the translator selected a translation for luke 23:43. .

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  Splash

  Was Jesus speaking literally when he said '... today you will be with me..'?

  Looking at Genesis 2:17 "But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die", it indicates that the bible can use terms like this as a guarantee of something happening rather than a literal timescale.
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  New flip flop document - updated from last year

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about this time last year i uploaded a document as part of my going away post.. as stated at the time i had to lie low, and am still doing so.

  sort of.

  mostly.i pop up rarely to chip in when my 'ardour comes up into my nose' about something lol, but still read the leaks and back-and-forth between the members here.

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  Splash

  Vanderhoven7 Can we get this pdf without signing up for anything?
  

  Seems something got corrupted. No sign up should be needed.

  Try this link instead.