Posts by Splash

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What the recent court cases prove about the Governing Body

by JimmyPage in

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for years we have debated on this board about whether or not the governing body are truly wicked or just clueless.

these recent court cases have hammered home their true nature.

they are willfully evil, deliberately and recklessly endangering the lives of tiny innocent children.

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Knowing that these cases are being brought against them, recently the WT brazenly printed:

*** w12 5/1 p. 16 What Is the Good News About Religion? ***
1. Is all religion good?
Many religious groups include sincere people who want to please God. He sees those people and cares about them. Sadly, though, some people have used religion for evil purposes. In the past, religious leaders have even tortured their opponents. (2 Corinthians 4:3, 4; 11:13-15) Today, according to news reports, some religious leaders have encouraged terrorism or supported war, or they have been involved in child abuse.—Read Matthew 24:3-5, 11, 12.

That is just plain hypocrisy when it's happening within your own walls.

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"Confidential" JW.ORG Video Project Leaked

by Emery in

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syneidos posted some interesting information on reddit regarding jw.org's latest project for the upcomming 2015 memorial campaign.. for next year's 2015 memorial campaign, jw.org is producing an invitational video featuring jesus.

the video is still being filmed at the moment and i was told it was super "confidential.

" my source already saw several scenes from it and said, "it looks and feels like a cinematic movie.

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I don't know how a video invitation would work?

Currently there's a 'special effort' to spend extra time in the ministry, and 1,000's of leaflets are ordered.
To start with, the leaflets are used like at any other time, ie. knock, discuss, invite, but the week before the memorial the elders notice we still have 5,000 leaflets in the cupboard so it's a crazy post-fest for the remaining few days.

Villages are swept through in a day, housing estates gobbled up by maniacal leafleteers.

Stopping to show a 3 minute video to everyone would kill the number of leaflets posted (which, don't forget, are now included on your monthly report), and would leave the congregations with boxes of memorial invites.

Maybe the news is that the Memorial will be prerecorded by a GB member and broadcast into each hall.

Splash.

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Happy bonfire night England

by jean-luc picard in

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i love fireworks even now, so imagine how i was when i was a little boy.. .

i celebrated bonfire night until i was 7. and then i didn't.. .

my parents had become jehovah's witnesses, and realized that bonfire night was wrong.. .

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The sun is just setting in the UK.

I can hear fireworks already!

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Where do JWs get their Apathy Trolley/Cart?

by punkofnice in

i can't imagine for one second that the wbt$ supply the apathy trollies they'll make the r&f pay for them.

or does the wbt$ supply the apathy trolley and charge over the odds for them?.

so...........do jws construct them?.

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Eh up Punky!

I wonder what the next thing will be that they come up with to get more money coming in.
Recently we have had
- Specific requests for the congregation to give to our nearest assembly hall, per publisher (resolution carried)
- The "what can you donate monthly" survey
- A resolution (carried) to pay monthly to the branch, in place of the SKHF fund
- A resolution (carried) to pay so much per month to replace the KHAA arrangement

I know there are more - it seems whenever there's a local need, the need is always for more money, and it's never local.

Keep rocking!

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Where do JWs get their Apathy Trolley/Cart?

by punkofnice in

i can't imagine for one second that the wbt$ supply the apathy trollies they'll make the r&f pay for them.

or does the wbt$ supply the apathy trolley and charge over the odds for them?.

so...........do jws construct them?.

Splash

I think there's another income stream in that the WT also send new trolley posters for each new set of magazines.

These advertise the current magazines, and are sent to every congregation each month.

I can't imagine for a moment that these are free.

Splash.

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New JW assembly/meeting that has prerecorded message? Lasts half a day

by HillCountry in

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sorry about the confused nature of the topic but my mom (who still goes to the kh meetings) said that there will be an "assembly" on sunday where there will be a prerecorded message or talk of some sort and that it will only be half a day and won't need to bring lunch.

anyone else have heard of these or gone to one?.

i know they are changing a lot of things.

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Or is it the Annual Meeting that was recorded and uploaded to jw tv?

That meeting is a full 4 hours long, complete with a slot asking for more money of course.
At 2:40 Mark Sanderson reads a letter to those attending (and for those watching later):

"Well now here's one announcement we'd like to make.
Each of us has an opportunity to share in the joy of making voluntary offerings.
Contribution boxes are located throughout the facilty for those who would like to give financial support to the worldwide work.
In addition, donations can be made by debit or credit card.
Please note that all contributions to the worldwide work of Jehovah's Wittnesses are cared for by the local branch office.
Therefore, it would be appreciated if those who contribute by cheque would simply make their cheques payable to 'Jehovah's Witnesses'.
You may be seated"

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New JW Podcast Show - Amazing Interview with Irwin Zalkin!

by God_Delusion in

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hello guys & gals!.

we've just launched our brand new episode, s01e01 - irwin zalkin, which we recorded last night.. you can listen to it right here - http://www.jwpodcast.org/2014/11/03/s01e01-irwin-zalkin.

in this ground-breaking bumper show, we interview irwin zalkin, the lawyer who filed and won this new child abuse case against the watchtower organisation, which saw the victim, jose lopez awarded $13.5 million.. i think you'll agree with me (after listening to the interview) that irwin really knows his 'watchtower' stuff!.

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It won't look like they're capitulating to anyone, because only the elders will know of the new rules.

My point 3 said that if anyone is found guilty in court then they WOULD be df'd as well. Easily done, you can be df'd for anything they want. Brazen conduct?

They would sell it as a demonstration of how they abhor child abuse, yada yada, and the R&F would have an answer for any opposer's.

Add a police check prior to any potential appointments, and the legal and moral sides are solved, and the biblical 2 witness rule stays intact.

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New JW Podcast Show - Amazing Interview with Irwin Zalkin!

by God_Delusion in

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hello guys & gals!.

we've just launched our brand new episode, s01e01 - irwin zalkin, which we recorded last night.. you can listen to it right here - http://www.jwpodcast.org/2014/11/03/s01e01-irwin-zalkin.

in this ground-breaking bumper show, we interview irwin zalkin, the lawyer who filed and won this new child abuse case against the watchtower organisation, which saw the victim, jose lopez awarded $13.5 million.. i think you'll agree with me (after listening to the interview) that irwin really knows his 'watchtower' stuff!.

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My prediction as to how the WT will adjust their teachings in response to the mounting cases they are having to defend.

1. New instructions to report all allegations of abuse to the authorities

2. Maintain the 2 witness rule for all internal procedures

3. If someone is convicted as a result of 1. then df them as well

This is how to have your cake and eat it.

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Did the WT ever trash the Catholic's in writting over their pedophila coverups??

by Crazyguy in

if so it would be good to have these publications on hand.. .

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*** g89 11/8 p. 28 Watching the World ***

CHURCH SEX SCANDAL

“For years, Roman Catholic priests and other church workers in Newfoundland parishes had repeatedly abused dozens of children, most of them young boys, many of them orphans in the care of their attackers,” reports Canada’s newsmagazine Maclean’s. With reports of sexual abuse mounting each month...faith and trust of many Catholics in their priests have been shaken. Most disturbing is the accusation that sexual abuse in the church not only has been long-standing but has usually been covered up and the offending priest simply moved to another parish where new offenses were sometimes committed. “The Roman collar, once worn with pride, has become a source of embarrassment and suspicion,” says Paul Stapleton, vice-chairman of the St. John’s Catholic school board. “The recent events put all priests under a cloud of spoken or silent suspicion."

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Did the WT ever trash the Catholic's in writting over their pedophila coverups??

by Crazyguy in

if so it would be good to have these publications on hand.. .

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*** g90 11/8 p. 31 ‘Our Shame Is Clear to the Whole World’ ***

The Times reported: “The Archbishop of Newfoundland has resigned after charges that the Roman Catholic Church’s hierarchy ignored or failed to deal effectively with three years of scandal involving allegations of sexual abuse against altar boys, orphaned youths and others by Roman Catholic priests and church laymen.”

Usually these cases are hushed up, and no significant disciplinary action is taken. Perhaps a priest is transferred to another parish or duty, where the depravity might start again. On this occasion the archbishop was moved to resign after stating: “We are a sinful church. We are naked. Our anger, our pain, our anguish, our shame are clear to the whole world.”—Compare Revelation 17:15-18.

A judicial inquiry showed that accusations had been made over a period of 15 years, but the police and government officials failed “to act decisively against the offenders.” And even worse, the church hierarchy failed to act decisively. They were accused of being more concerned about the offending priests than about the victims.

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