The true answer to question 4 on that sheet is that Deborah was the judge at that time, not Barak, as Judges 4:4 clearly states "Now Debʹo·rah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapʹpi·doth, was judging Israel at that time."
Barak was only doing as Deborah instructed him to do after he had been summoned by her, in recognition of her superior authority.
The WT has a real problem with women in positions of authority, to the point of corrupting scripture in order to shore up their flawed teachings.
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the generation scripture no longer is speaking about 'the end'.
i'll quote it...... side note: tons of lies in this article, i'll point out at the end of the post.
"yet, jesus words at matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of "this generation will by no means pass away" before seeing the start of the great tribulation.".
The rule is that anyone baptised and anointed at the point of time of 1914 (or is it 1919?) constitute the 1st generation.
So taking your example, someone born in 1839 could be baptised and anointed by 1859. If they lived until they were 80 (1919) then they are the 1st generation.
Another example. Fred Franz was baptised and anointed by 1914 but lived until 1977 or something. This means he was also part of the 1st generation because he was anointed at the key point in time - 1914.
Both these examples show that the 1st generation stretches from the 1830's to the 1970's.... ish. 140 years for one generation.
BUT... "This Generation" is actually TWO "generations" which overlap, so...
If someone was baptised and anointed by the 1970's, and overlapped Fred Franz, maybe being 20 years old at time (i.e. born in the mid 1950's), this person is ALSO part of "This Generation" because he is in the 2nd generation group - the overlapping group.
If this person lives until they are 80 years old (let's say until 2030), then "This Generation" that Jesus said will never pass away actually stretches from the 1830's to the 2030's - 200 years!
WT have obviously got this prophecy solved. After all, 7 millions JW's all say it makes sense.
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this week's service meeting, the whole 30 minutes, is devoted to the "new songs" foisted upon jws.. note this from paragraph 8 of the km article that is to be considered:.
we will conclude our meeting today with the new song entitled the kingdom is in placelet it come!
this song, which was featured at the recent annual meeting, was specially composed to mark the 100th anniversary of the birth of the kingdom.. .
This commemorative song is late. It should have been available and sung in 2014 to mark 100 years.
Sloppy and disrespectful.
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this week's service meeting, the whole 30 minutes, is devoted to the "new songs" foisted upon jws.. note this from paragraph 8 of the km article that is to be considered:.
we will conclude our meeting today with the new song entitled the kingdom is in placelet it come!
this song, which was featured at the recent annual meeting, was specially composed to mark the 100th anniversary of the birth of the kingdom.. .
blondie3 hours ago
I heard quite a few messed up problems at the "Farm" where one "spiritually qualified" Bethelite lost the WTS 400,000 mid-80 dollars. When the WTS brought in jw construction staff because the inhouse Bethelites were totally incompetent.
I heard the same happened in the UK recently when one assembly hall was renovated.
The new roof needed specialised skills to complete it, but the local wannabee's tried to do it themselves.
After it leaked, professionals were called in.
The whole fiasco came to around £300,000 of the local congregations kindly donated contributions.
But who cares when it's easy come, easy go?
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re: jw broadcasting.
dear brothers:.
we are writing to inform you of an exciting initiative that was announced on october 4,.
I heard recently that a nearby kingdom hall has just installed a roku. This will likely be to fulfill the recent letter to all congregations instructing them to organise monthly jw TV screenings for all those who do not have internet access at home.
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yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
Keep reading DocHouse... 1 Cor 1:12 What I mean is this, that each one of you says "I belong to Paul", " but I to Appollos", "but I to Cephas", " but I to Christ".
Despite what Christ says, you say "I belong to the WT", "but I to the GB", "but I to jw.org".
You do as you are told by these men and not by what Christ tells you, otherwise you would reread the verse you just quoted and apply it to yourself first.
Ironic really, seeing as this thread is about having a rafter in your eye.
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ok, so the time has finally come to register an account on this site.
not that i think i have much to contribute to the discussions here, but more out of a desire to show that yet another person has learned ttatt.
i am a fader, not discussing ttatt with anyone as i know the inevitable outcome it would have.
Welcome to the board LMR, I hope we hear more from you in the various discussions.
The journey out of the JW's is a tough one and a long one, but once you see through all of the lies, it's a journey you have to take.
Splash
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
NO truth is in the RCC at ALL
I already gave you an example of where the RCC found truth before the GB did, but if you want to lie, ignore facts and live in denial then I'm not going to try to stop you. It's only yourself you're deceiving and being untrue too, so fill your boots.
If I'm wrong then refute my statement about the "superior authorities" being identified correctly by the RCC decades before your idols copied them.
I know you won't, because your arguments are superficial and you have no depth. You are told what to believe and you lap it up no matter how ridiculous it is. You cannot answer cofty because he understands what he speaks about, while you need the WT to speak your mind for you.
Right now you can't see how blind and pitiable you are, but I'm sure you will heal in time, especially if you stick around here and learn to think once again.
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yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
Be kind to dochouse. He's just woken up mentally and can't handle the cognitive dissonance.
Give him a few months and he'll quit parroting WT articles and start accepting what is patently and provably true instead.
It's a grieving process, as a lifetime of falsehoods and absurdities die.
Splash
i have updated the article at memorial partakers with the figures released for 2014. no surprises here, it has risen yet again, this time by 6% over last year, and is now 14,121.. .
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In 1925 there were 90,434 partakers, everyone who attended partook.
In 1935 there were 52,465 partakers, interestingly out of 63,146 attenders!
Add to this last years figure of 14,121 who would not be in the 1935 figure, and you're up to 66,586 partakers in the last 80 years (ish)
This leaves 144,000 - 66,586 = 77,400 partakers between the first century and the 1935.
But in the first century there were 3,000 baptized in Acts 2:41;
"All of Samaria, both men and women" were baptized in Acts 8:9-12;
and "many Corinthians" in Acts 18:8-11 which took 1.5 years.
There are also many congregations mentioned in the scriptures, some written to, all full of baptized (anointed) people:
There were "many in Joppa" (Acts 9:42),
"a great number from Antioch" (Acts 11:21),
"a great multitude in Iconium" (Acts 14:1),
"quite a few in Derbe" (Acts 14:21),
"a great multitude" in Thessalonica (Acts 17:4),
"Many" in Beroea (Acts 17:12),
"Jews and Greeks" in Corinth (Acts 18:4), and
"many thousands (literally 'myriads' - 10,000's) of Jews" (Acts 21:20).
Tacitus says that under Nero (2nd century) "a great multitude" of christians were executed.
During the many persecutions under Maximus, 1,900 Christians were martyred in Sicily alone.
Diocletian (3rd century) killed 17,000 in one month.
Eusebius says that during one of the persecutions, ten thousand men (not counting women and children) were killed in Egypt. The executioners blunted their swords and had to work in relays.
How many does that make?
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