did i understand that right?
was that a claim rutherford made?.
i don't suppose anyone has that quote..
Also stated in a recent WT:
*** w07 1/1 p. 28 par. 11 “The First Resurrection”—Now Under Way! ***
What, then, can we deduce from the fact that one of the 24 elders identifies the great crowd to John? It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today.
just out of interest.
There's the phrase they used extensively:
*** w10 9/15 p. 23 par. 8 “Your Leader Is One, the Christ” ***
In this time of the end, Christ has committed “all his belongings”—all the earthly interests of the Kingdom—to his “faithful and discreet slave” and its representative Governing Body, a group of anointed Christian men. (Matt. 24:45-47) The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.
im not an attorney and i could not record the hearing, so please forgive me if i make mistakes in relating what i remember of the oral argument hearing for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society on january 14, 2015 and the length of this post.. i arrived at the civic center/union plaza in san francisco, ca about 7:30. the area is very nice with a few homeless people sleeping in the park across from the courthouse.
it took me about 10 minutes to find the clerks office for the court on the first floor, which opened at 8:00.. once the clerks office opened, the two clerks who i talked with were very polite and helpful.
the arguments for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society were scheduled 5th out of (i think) 8. while i was in the office a cameraman and another person for nbc arrived asking about the hearing for candace contis case.. the courtroom for the 1st appellate court is on the 4th floor and takes up most of that floor.
The WT once hammered the Ctholics n the pages of Awake! for the exact same thing theyare doing today.
*** g89 1/22 p. 10 Christendom Walks in the Way of Canaan ***
“Church officials insist that a notorious 1985 Louisiana case in which a priest molested at least 35 boys has taught them to deal firmly with the problem. But a three-month Mercury News investigation reveals that in more than 25 dioceses across the country, church officials have failed to notify authorities, transferred molesting priests to other parishes, ignored parental complaints and disregarded the potential damage to child victims. . . . Millions of dollars in damages already have been paid to victims and their families, and one 1986 church report estimated that the church’s liability could reach $1 billion over the next decade.”
The “notorious 1985 Louisiana case” mentioned in the Mercury News report concerned a priest named Gilbert Gauthe. There has been a “payment of $12 million to his victims.”
How do you spell k-a-r-m-a ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3y0cd2cocs.
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Skelington instead of skeleton.
"Brought", as in "I went to the shops and brought a new TV"
I knew a builder who made his home warmer by laying some "installation" in the loft.
Sigh.
remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.
many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!
So now it's OK to fly a national flag on a day of national pride, so long as you, personally, don't worship it.
It obviously doesn't matter that everyone seeing it will attach a patriotic meaning to it, so long as you, in your mind, do not.
Hmm, where else might this principle be used?
"Well YOU may think I committed fornication with Sister Pioneer, but in my mind it was no such thing".
"Celebrating Christmas? Of course not, not in my mind at least."
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i have noticed something even long before even looking into ttatt, something about morris bothered me.
i am personally very attuned to body language, facial expressions and general subtleties in human interaction.
there was something about his face that really bothered me, and i will explain it.
Such a contemptuous sneer. He holds the fawning underlings in total disdain.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3y0cd2cocs.
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What do Americans call a chaise longue, isn't it a chaise lounge?
That's just lazy, it's a "long chair".
Cordon bleu becomes cordon blue. I mean, come on, mixing up languages?
The only satisfaction I get when I see ignorant spelling, is that Google probably doesn't work well for their searches. GOOD!
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john ekrann, a helper to the gb, revealed the true reason for the change was protecting jws from apostates and other "anointed" christians.. see: http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_e_201501_2_video (around 4:55ms).
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5:43 "as we get closer to the time of the end"
Say WHAT???
Are we in the time of the end or are we just getting closer to it?
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do we understand these three words: worship, idolatry, and blasphemy?.
most christians have a vague notion of worship, idolatry, and blasphemy already, but.
a clear definition is necessary.. we must take care to differentiate, however.. how the words appear in original language and how they are defined today might be at odds.. ____________________.
johnamos [4-1-07 WT- Showing Due Respect forthe Faithful Slave
In this WT is a very worrying application of scripture:
"The humble submission of the other sheep to the
anointed members of spiritual Israel was foretold in the prophecy of Isaiah: “This
is what Jehovah has said: ‘The unpaid laborers of Egypt and the merchants of
Ethiopia and the Sabeans, tall men, will themselves come over even to you, and
yours they will become. Behind you they will walk; in fetters they will come
over, and to you they will bow down. To you they will pray, saying, “Indeed God
is in union with you, and there is no one else; there is no other God.”’”
(Isaiah 45:14) Symbolically, the other sheep today walk behind the anointed
slave class and its Governing Body, following their leadership."
The interpretation of the verse speaks about those who will 'walk behind' the anointed.
That verse also speaks of bowing down and praying to those same ones (the anointed).
The GB did not emphasize that aspect but you know for certain they considered it.
This WT is pretty recent - 2007. I wonder when they will bring out that we should be bowing down to the anointed (although they would say only the GB)?
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over the past few days i've been reading and watching bill and melinda gates speak about their plans for a better world by 2030. they bet that due to technology and the compassion of people the world should improve more in the next 15 years than it has in all of history.
specifically lower child mortality rate, eradication of polio and guinea worm among other diseases, improvement of standards of living, greater access to education etc.. i'm a realist, so i'm not looking for miracles, but i believe most of these things are possible given the level of success they have reaped in other endeavors, and naturally emerging tech being used to make some of these projections possible.. you can see that the world is actually improving in many areas if you seek out the good news stories and statistics and look beyond the watchtower friendly fear porn about terrorism, and potential dangers from culturally diverse nations around the globe.
for instance 2014 had the lowest fatal airline accident rate in history despite the hyping of the ill fated malaysian airlines crashes.
The JW organisation is a responsive, reactive one. It evolves according to its' surroundings.
When 'prophecies' fail, they respond with new light.
When world conditions change, for the good or bad, they react with WT articles explaining how this fits with Bible chronology.
When all else fails, a few misquoted scientists and professors seem to keep the sheep placated.
The internet will be the death of the WT though. Once the older ones have died off the younger ones will intuitively research online and be horrified at the huge dishonesty of this organisation. Even Africa is getting online. The funds will dry up and they will be spending more than they are earning.
If you think JW's are niche now, their dwindling retention rate will see them fade into obscurity.
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