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  Where did this picture of GB singing come from?

  by Esse quam videri in

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  sorry.

  i see it is on jw survey and from one of their earth shaking, mind bending, nausea producing jw.org broadcasts.. .

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  Splash

  (Luke 20:46, 47) “Beware of the scribes who like to walk around in robes and who love greetings in the marketplaces and front seats in the synagogues and the most prominent places at evening meals, and who devour the houses of the widows and for show make long prayers. These will receive a more severe judgment.”
  
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  Is 1919 Important to the WT?

  by Anon_SA1 in

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  does anyone know if the wt still claims they were appointed in 1919?

  is there proof of this appointment?

  any ideas where i can find out how they get to this date?

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  Splash

  I believe this was taken from jwfacts website, but it's a great summary.

  What year did Jesus' Inspection take place, and what was the immediate outcome?
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Failed Inspection - Watchtower May 15, 1951 page 303
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Passed Inspection - Watchtower November 1,1955 page 633
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Passed Inspection - Watchtower January 15, 1960 page 47
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Failed Inspection - Watchtower February 1, 1972 page 79
  Inspection year: 1919 Result: Failed Inspection - Gods K'dom of 1000 Years (1973) p. 231
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Failed Inspection - Yearbook 1975 page 87
  Inspection year: 1919 Result: Passed Inspection - Watchtower Sept 15, 1983 page 20
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Failed Inspection - "Prince of Peace" (1986) page 40 para 8
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Passed Inspection - Watchtower March 15, 1990 page 14
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Passed Inspection - Watchtower May 1, 1993 page 17
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Failed Inspection - Isaiah's Prophecy II (2001) page 396
  Inspection year: 1918 & 1919 Result: Passed Inspection - Watchtower March 1, 2004 page 17
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Passed Inspection - Watchtower April 1, 2007 page 22 par. 5
  Inspection year: 1918 Result: Passed Inspection - Watchtower January 15, 2008 page 24
  Inspection year: 1919 Result: Failed Inspection - Watchtower Sept 15, 2012 page 25
  Inspection year: 1914 Result: Failed Inspection - Watchtower July 15, 2013 page 23
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  Splash

  They are convention talks and special talks from the early 1970's which make specific reference to 1975.

  That is the year which was hyped as the start of Armageddon, but which all JW's today deny was ever mentioned.

  A new 6 month bible study program was introduced because there wasn't enough time to spend longer than that studying with new students.

  Membership soared, only to plummet in the aftermath when nothing happened.
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  Splash

  Hi hoser. I found another Assembly reference to it today, from 1972, Ulysses Glass.

  Listen to this one at 6:00 onwards:
  http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/SpecialTalks/Glass%20Ulysses%20-%20Will%20Your%20Name%20be%20Found%20in%20the%20Book%20of%20Life.mp3

  And this one from 52:30 onwards. (Also a talk from 1972):
  http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/SpecialTalks/Kite%20Floyd%20-%20Are%20You%20Marked%20for%20Survival.mp3
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  A whole decade?

  by Caedes in

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  2. friends

  according to the new software i have been here for ten years.

  should i be getting parole around now?

  doesn't time fly when you are having fun!

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  Splash

  I saw you in a whole new light after that disagreement you had last year with that other 'cat'.

  He was very intelligent and pretty obnoxious (he got banned in the end) but you systematically pulled him to pieces.

  Made me realise that I'll not go toe-to-toe with Caedes!
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  new annual text for 2016.

  by janusfulcrum in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  make them work harder and keep them busy so that they may not pay attention to lies.. ex 5:9 .

  whaddaya all think?.

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  Splash

  (James 3:1) "Not many of YOU should become teachers, my brothers, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment."

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  (Le 19:27) “YOU must not cut YOUR sidelocks short around, and you must not destroy the extremity of your beard."
  
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  Splash

  Giordano mentioned The Way To Paradise (1924). Here's a quote stating that there's "no doubt" about 1925.
  This is the WT way, present something as absolute, beyond question, then revise it later to something different but also absolute, beyond question.
  P.226 "No doubt many boys and girls who read this book will live to see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Daniel, and those other faithful men of old, come forth in the glory of their "better resurrection", perfect in mind and body"

  Splash: "Just today I found an audio clip from a 1972 district convention reaffirming 1975."

  Village Idiot: @ Splash: Can you provide a link?

  I would insert the extracted audio clip here but I don't think this board supports audio clips inserted.
  Instead, follow this link and fast forward to

  http://www.centralprint.net/jwtalks/DC/Reese%20-%201972%20DC%20Closing%20Remarks.mp3

  15:23 - "We had that advice about 1975, Not changing a thing! Not changing a thing!... We have stronger reason to see that the middle 70's are going to see the complete change in earths affairs."

  18:33 - Anointed partakers are decreasing, 'as expected'.

  Lots of "be submissive", "do more" and the Greek Orthodox Church gets described as being "the wrongest".
  If you have time, give it a listen. There's nothing new under the sun.
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  CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

  by The Laser Viking in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am 6th generation.

  i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

  i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

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  Splash

  Ask him if the GB brought back the "pyramid inch" would we be compelled to believe it again?

  Ask, if Jesus selected the F&DS in 1919 (and this is no longer all the remnant), who exactly did he choose, and who chose the current F&DS in New York?

  See if he knows that the current definition of Generation is a 200 year period, and why is this different to the Bibles definition of a generation?

  Ask him if he has been disturbed by the incredible number of doctrinal changes over the years, then show him g70 4/22 p. 8 Changes That Disturb People:

  "Yes, millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong. Have you, too, felt discouragement or even despair because of what is happening in your church? A businessman in Colombia expressed the effect the changes have had on many."Tell me," he asked, "how can I have confidence in anything? How can I believe in the Bible, in God, or have faith? Just ten years ago we Catholics had the absolute truth, we put all our faith in this. Now the pope and our priests are telling us this is not the way to believe any more, but we are to believe 'new things.' How do I know the 'new things' will be the truth in five years?"
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  Splash

  Just today I found an audio clip from a 1972 district convention reaffirming 1975.

  Fink was right when he pointed out the connection between the OP quote and 1975, it was a fervour.
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  How many JWs really believe the end will come "soon"?

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic has been on my mind lately.

  i have been looking around at jws and wondering how many truly believe the end is as near as they are told.

  from my personal experience, i know that my parents fully believe the end is imminent and may come any time now.

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  Splash

  If there were no consequences for stopping field service, no 'encouraging visits', no "we've missed you's", no CO chasing up elders when people go irregular, no risk of DA, DF, or shunning, and no being looked down on judgmentally and being avoided by people you've known for decades, then half the JW's would walk out tomorrow.

  The congregations are held together with peer pressure and fear pressure.