Derrrrrr Dah!
Derrrrrr Dah!
DUN dun DUN dun DUN dun DUN dun .......
angus stewart's facial expression says what he thinks about rodney spink's prevarication.... .
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Derrrrrr Dah!
Derrrrrr Dah!
DUN dun DUN dun DUN dun DUN dun .......
i actually started clapping at that point, as his honour explained to the wt type creep sycophantic slithery lawyer that........" i understand that we all have issues to face in life and .....that is a part of life...........however it has become obvious that this man ....is in such a position to assist with this investigation.....".
it boils down to the fact that stewart outright accused the latest witness of misleading the royal commission and this lead to some document searches which led his honour to conclude that they had been protecting mr jackson.
this was a warm and fluffy moment folks.................brilliant stuff!!!!!
Putting GJ on the stand is the JW equivalent of questioning the pope!
I hope Angus realises this is a once in a lifetime chance that anyone will ever get to ask questions directly and publicly of a GB member!!
I have to say, if I want to see anyone asking the questions then it's Angus.
no doubt we noticed the royal commission ask vin toole (and i think terry o'brien) about the expression "theocratic warfare"?.
they were asked to explain it and what is meant to witnesses.. vin outrightly lied when he said he "had never heard of that expression!".
i remember him using that term in conversations and talks many times!!
I posted this in a different thread, but it fits better here.
YES - Watchtower Oct 1, 1954, par 21, 25
"No harm is practiced by withholding incriminating information from one who is not entitled to know."
YES - Watchtower May 1, 1957 Page 285 - 286.
"So in time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth."
YES - Watchtower June 1, 1960, pages 351-352
"We must tell the truth to one who is entitled to know, but if one is not so entitled we may be evasive."
YES - Insight On The Scriptures, Volume 2, 1988 pages 244-245.
"While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it"
YES - w07 2/1 p. 6 Why Be Truthful?
So while Jesus did not utter an untruth, he gave them an incomplete answer in order to limit the possible harm they could do to him or to his followers.
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3
After hearing witness after witness quoting a scripture to tell the Commission that JWs obey the superior authorities because that's what God commands, it would be an incredible own goal to demonstrate their contempt for their own rules by GJ not appearing after being told to do so.
It would call into question every statement they've made, and prove them to be untrustworthy, deceitful and self serving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=9vvqxf9uwu0.
the rc put it to spinks that there is comming legislation comming out of these proceedings, of which mandatory reporting, to be worked out.
criminal charges for those in clergy positions failing to make the report.. in the post "contacted by royal commission today" "umbertoecho" stated that she was encouraged to seek compensation for damages.
mulling that post over in my mind i think the rc will legeslate a means that the victims of jehovah witnesses will be able to gain compensation from the watchtower much like the catholics.
There are cracks appearing in the ivory tower that can no longer be plastered over.
Watch out for a new Shepherd the Flock book for elders coming soon.
And by 'soon' I don't mean in the WT sense of the word, I mean in the true sense of the word.
sorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.
i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.
he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.
Richard_I "Just a Translator, nothing more"
Geoffrey is fulfilling prophecy.
(Zechariah 13:4, 5) “In that day each of the prophets will be ashamed of his vision when he prophesies; and they will not wear an official garment of hair in order to deceive. And he will say, ‘I am no prophet. I am a man cultivating the soil..."
The equivalent of claiming to be a simple farmer.if anyone knows which committees gj sits on or what some of his responsibilities are, can you please post here with supporting quotes.
Recently the Governing Body via both Lett and TM3 have used their TV station to vehemently deny all rumours about child abuse in the organisation. They have pointed to old magazine articles in their defense and claim any statement to the contrary is from Satan.
Over the decades Barbara Anderson has cataloged court settlements, and more recently victims have been reluctant to settle quietly, preferring to expose things in a court of law.
The GB are still in complete denial mode, even going so far in the latest WT's to say that JW's must not even listen to such things - in other words JW's have to deny it as well. To accept that there is a problem is to contradict the GB in their latest videos on the JW TV station.
if anyone knows which committees gj sits on or what some of his responsibilities are, can you please post here with supporting quotes.
The Faithful and Discreet Slave have dogmatically and repeatedly instilled their authority in the minds of JW's for decades. It's time they answered for their decisions.
Mt 24:45 is the most familiar of all bible verses: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?"
Searching the WT CD for where this verse is restated gives the following results:
if anyone knows which committees gj sits on or what some of his responsibilities are, can you please post here with supporting quotes.
The Faithful and Discreet Slave also go by the term 'prophet',although they seek to use a forked tongue on this and simultaneously deny they are prophets.
JW's are well informed of the consequences of ignoring or challenging a prophet of God.
May 15, 1955
Watchtower (pages 305 and 308) - JW's are
'inspired' prophets:
16 ...we next
observe that the official "Word" transmits the message either by
means of an angelic messenger who appears face to face or by the use of God's
holy spirit to inspire the next agent in the line of
communication... The earthly channel is either a
prophet or a collective prophet-like organization.
Page 308: From the prophetic shadows to the actual realities we observe that this God-provided channel for Christians is the collective congregation of anointed ones who serve as a prophet-like organization under the leadership of its communicating head, Christ Jesus. –Eph 5:23
w59 1/15 pp. 40-41 pars.
11-14 Down with the Old—Up with the New!
1971 - "The Nations Shall Know
That I Am Jehovah , How? page 70
"Likewise it was a trying
mission upon which the modern Ezekiel class was sent, to religious people of
the same type as those in Ezekiel's day. But regardless of how Christendom
views or regards this group of anointed witnesses of Jehovah, the time must
come, and that shortly, when those making up Christendom will know that really
a "prophet" of Jehovah was among them. "
w73 3/1 p. 150 Heeding Divine Warning Is
Wisdom
hs (1976) chap. 8 p. 148 par. 22 "Spirit
of Life from God Entered into Them"
w82 10/1 p. 27 para 8-9
Reasoning
From the Scriptures (1989) p.133
"If
any individual claim to represent God but decline to use god's personal name,
and make it a practice to express their own opinions on matters, are they
measuring up to this important qualification of a true prophet?"
w98 7/15 p.12 Beware of a Lack of Faith par. 15
"Paul started his warning with the provisional clause
"if you people listen to his own voice." God spoke to his people through Moses and other prophets. Then, Jehovah spoke to them through his
Son, Jesus Christ. (Hebrews 1:1, 2) Today, we have God's complete inspired
Word, the Holy Bible. We also have "the faithful and discreet slave,"
appointed by Jesus to provide spiritual "food at the proper time."
(Matthew 24:45-47) Thus, God is still speaking."
w99
10/1 5 "For Everything There Is an Appointed Time"
"For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed
his confidential matter to his servants the prophets." (Amos 3:7) ... For
that purpose God has authorized a "faithful and discreet slave" to
provide his people with "their [spiritual] food at the proper time."
w10 7/15 p. 11 par. 18 "What
Sort of Persons Ought You to Be!"
"At the same time, Jehovah will honor his faithful servants by making it
abundantly clear that they were, indeed, his representatives.—Read Ezekiel 2:5; 33:33."
(Eze
2:5) And as for them, whether they will
hear or will refrain—for they are a rebellious house—they will certainly know
also that a prophet himself happened to be in the midst of them.
(Eze
33:33) And when it comes true—look! it must
come true—they will also have to know that a prophet himself had proved to be
in the midst of them."
w11 3/15 p. 30 par. 10 - Anointed are prophets
"Like the prophet of old, the Jeremiah class has been given an
assignment from the Sovereign of the universe. God's anointed servants are thus
duly authorized to make pronouncements worldwide..."
w14 11/15 p. 30 11
- F&DS are prophets
"Revelation 11:3 speaks of two witnesses who would prophesy for 1,260 days...
However, true to the words of the prophecy, at the end of the three and a half
days, the two witnesses were brought back to life. Not only were these anointed
ones released from prison but those who remained faithful received a special
appointment from God through their Lord, Jesus Christ. In 1919 they were among
those who were appointed to serve as a "faithful and discreet slave"
to care for the spiritual needs of God's people during the last days."