Posts by Splash

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New light in new branch organxation book data protection

by poopie in

jw
friends

under coodinators comitee pt63.

you can now request your personal records from the branch check it out.

Splash

@The Rebel

Yes, in the UK you can do both of those things.
If you think the Society will comply with either request then you are in for a surprise.

Clause 62.g. is something else that doesn't get mentioned when you're baptised:
"[...] all of Jehovah's Witnesses have consented by virtue of their free and willing decision to become Jehovah's Witnesses and identify themselves as such."

Is that one of the baptism questions?
"Do you agree that your personal data and any correspondence about you can be handled however the Society see's fit, retaining it forever and never allowing you to see it or remove it?"

"All say 'YES'!"

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New light in new branch organxation book data protection

by poopie in

jw
friends

under coodinators comitee pt63.

you can now request your personal records from the branch check it out.

Splash

Talk about being two faced and double tongued!!!!
First it says that data correction and deletion can be granted (no doubt the clause they will repeat to anyone who asks about this), then the next two sections explain why this shouldn't be done!

63.a. "A data subject's right to the protection of personal and sensitive personal data and to the correction or deletion of personal and sensitive personal data is to be granted according to the practice of JW's as set forth in this policy".

63.c. "If a data subject requests access to, correction of, or deletion of personal data or sensitive personal data about himself, the organisation will fairly consider granting the request by balancing the interests of the individual [...] against the legitimate religious interests of the organisation [...]"

63.d. "The organisation has an interest in permanently retaining data regarding an individuals status as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Deleting such information would unduly infringe on the organisations religious beliefs and practices."

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"Guardians of the doctrines"

by Half banana in

i can't help thinking that there is something essentially wrong with gj's new description of the role of the gibbering biddies as guardians of the doctrines..

guardians immediately take on a role of authority, (dont ever forget who is in charge!

) guardians outside of the legal sense of adoptive parent has another resonance, it sounds like the inhuman bullies in some dystopian novel about oppressive religious politics.

Splash

A guardian is someone who defends or protects something.

They are doing a very bad job as guardians then, since doctrine is being constantly revised.

A better description would be Fiddlers Of Doctrine.

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Transcript for Jackson is now available for download.

by ToesUp in

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

select aug 14..

Splash

A: I guess that's a broad question, because sometimes those who make these accusations make many other accusations as well. But let me assure you, the person making the accusation is not the main thing. The main thing is: is there some basis to the accusation. And if there is some way that we could improve, the Governing Body is always interested in seeing how we can refine our policies.

I like that this statement was recorded.

It is an admission that the policies are the GB's, and that they alone are responsible for creating and improving them. Finally we know, this is where the buck stops.

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best ex JW sites

by cobweb in

jw
friends

i used to visit this site about ten years ago.

i haven't come her in a long time.

i have just recently started talking to a family member who is leaving the jws and i wanted to know what are the best sites available these days for finding out all the topics of information - failed prophecy, 1975, rutherford's drinking, russells tombstone - you know all of that kind of stuff.. back in the day there used to be a site run by a norwegian i think called kent.

Splash

Not an 'ex' JW site, but one that exposes the problems with their teachings in a very gentle way (i.e. no forum lol) is perimeno.

Run by an anointed. Some very logical explanations. Seems to have helped a lot of die-hards realise something is wrong.

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Could this be the future for the Watchtower?

by C0ntr013r in

been researching the mormons a little since they are quite similar to the jws.

they have a similar webpage and many videos to "help" the mormons in their faith.

i found this video done by abc4 news:.

Splash

JW growth in western countries is almost entirely born ins.

Perpetuating your faith down to your children is why the WT has been able to survive. If parents realised that the teachings today are nothing like the teachings that first persuaded them (or their parents perhaps) then this nonsense would soon come to an end.

I'm a 3rd generation JW and when I step back I realise that if a JW called on my house today there's no way I would accept their easily disprovable nonsense.

So my take on it is that if the cycle of inheriting your parents beliefs could be broken, the decline would be abrupt.

The good news is that western kids today do not blindly accept as much as my generation did, and are more empowered to challenge hand-me-down religion.

The WT may spend billions of hours recruiting but the writing is on the wall. Within our generation we will see the decline begin to set in, and even more so as the WT is held to the light regarding their abusive policies, ever changing unscriptural teachings and blatant money grabbing coersions.

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New video "Jehovah Has Done So Much for Me"

by NoIdeaWhatToBelieve in

hey all,.

have you seen the new video on http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/adult-survivor-child-abuse-video/ ?.

isn't this too much of a coincidence?

Splash

According to a recent elders training video, if she was feeling suicidal all she needs to do is repeat out loud "I am an integrity keeper!"
All better.

I tried this when I once got a broken arm, and it healed up almost immediately.

I have no doubt that it would also work for a fractured mind.

Buffoon elders actually think they are qualified to help.

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New video "Jehovah Has Done So Much for Me"

by NoIdeaWhatToBelieve in

hey all,.

have you seen the new video on http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/adult-survivor-child-abuse-video/ ?.

isn't this too much of a coincidence?

Splash

According to a recent elders training video, if she was feeling suicidal all she needs to do is repeat out loud "I am an integrity keeper!"

All better.

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I'm 16 and I might be pregnant In a JW household

by NYsweet16 in

okay, i don't even know where to start.

i'm 16, i live in a strict jw household and i know if i am pregnant (which is a big possibility) ..i know i'm doomed to a life of misery.

not because of my baby but because of my family and the isolation and judgement from the congregation.

Splash

When you're young and facing these things it all seems so huge and frightening.

You are where a million young mums-to-be have been, and they've all come out of it well. So will you.

Get some proper help and support and make friends with others in your situation so you can help each other.

Sending you hugs, knowing you'll be just fine.

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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

by Calebs Airplane in

within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

Splash

kookie well if anyone has to face the elders and they ask the question "do you believe that the FDS is being used as Gods only channel'? You can now say NO

You would be better off saying "Well, that would be a presumptuous thing to say"