I'm pleased they submitted the extremely redacted version first.
This means that if they now try to remove entries in the unredacted version, they can be found out.
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No blood Cards are back??????
by dugout inat the meeting last night, at the annoucments at end of meeting they said make sure u take your ped card.
i said to myself what is a ped card?
blood cards are back.
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OrphanCrow I am curious as to what kind of security measures the elders have in place in order to protect confidential information. Where do the elders keep that information on hand? How is it stored? Who exactly has access to that information?
At my hall the elders routinely leave confidential medical information from the congregation underneath the photocopier lid. When they remember, it is stored in the safe. This is the same safe that the accounts servants and helpers have access to.
I could give you a list of meds the congregation members are on.
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"Marking"
by confused inplease can anyone help me to find any information from society's literature on the subject of marking.
i wasn't aware it was still practiced.
i would like to know how it is explained as being in any way scriptural.
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Lying In Wait At a Bed & Breakfast
by Cold Steel ina few years ago while traveling in the northeast, my wife and i stopped in new haven, connecticut, at a b&b we'd reserved for the night.
no sooner had we unpacked and moved into the living room for tea and treats, our hosts began to talk about religion, and we learned they were jehovah's witnesses.
i didn't mind so much, but my wife was outraged that our hosts would use their place of business as a launching point to do missionary work.
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Put your experience on TripAdvisor so no one else are subjected to the same treatment.
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UK 2016 Sheffield Convention
by darkspilver inthis is actually, cinematographically, a pretty good video, certainly better then most of them anyway!.
1 to 3 july 2016 at sheffield arena, uk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ra2ji909w.
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Sunday attendance - 8428
Baptised - 19
This is 0.23%
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My strongest reason not to take anything especially in the new testament serious is found in JW grey bible
by Consciousguy inguys i need a rebuttal in this.
cos this is what i plan to tell the elders when they come to me which i find inevitable.
due to general concession and confirmation from jw bible on page 1736. all the available christian greek scriptures manuscript today doesn't contain yhwh.
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Sorry Splash but your emphasis on the number of manuscripts is very misleading.
It's not my emphasis and not my belief.
To debate a JW you have only one choice - use their own literature.
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My strongest reason not to take anything especially in the new testament serious is found in JW grey bible
by Consciousguy inguys i need a rebuttal in this.
cos this is what i plan to tell the elders when they come to me which i find inevitable.
due to general concession and confirmation from jw bible on page 1736. all the available christian greek scriptures manuscript today doesn't contain yhwh.
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The Borg argued that we don't have the originals manuscript and the available ones are written at least two centuries after the event, and that they have been manipulated.
If we do not have the original manuscripts, how do we know that later ones were manipulated?
This is a baseless claim with no evidence. It simply suits them to believe this.
If God's name is so important, why did God have it disappear both in print and audibly - it was never spoken.*** si p. 305 par. 26 Study Number 4—The Bible and Its Canon ***
Faith in the almighty God, who is the Inspirer and Preserver of his Word, makes us confident that he is the one who has guided the gathering together of its various parts.*** si p. 11 par. 28 “All Scripture Is Inspired of God and Beneficial” ***
That which has been recorded and preserved as the Holy Scriptures is not to be tampered with. (Deut. 4:1, 2; Rev. 22:18, 19)*** si pp. 316-317 par. 11 Study Number 6—The Christian Greek Text of the Holy Scriptures ***
A Reservoir of Over 13,000 Manuscripts.
A tremendous fund of manuscript copies of all 27 [NT] canonical books is available today. ... According to one calculation, there are over 5,000 manuscripts in the original Greek. In addition, there are over 8,000 manuscripts in various other languages—a total exceeding 13,000 manuscripts all together. Dating from the 2nd century C.E. to the 16th century C.E., they all help in determining the true, original text. The oldest of these many manuscripts is the papyrus fragment of the Gospel of John in the John Rylands Library in Manchester, England, known by the number P52, which is dated to the first half of the second century, possibly about 125 C.E. Thus, this copy was written only a quarter of a century or so after the original. -
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I need quotes from watctower demonizing the internet, and gadgets e.g smart phones, tablets etc
by joe134cd ini need wt quotes where wt goes fully out and: .
demonizes the internet, .
witnesses preaching on the internet.
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SHOULD WE READ THE BIBLE ONLINE?
NO - w02 6/15 p. 15 Follow the Royal Pattern [Box on page 15] "In Our Hands"
"If we want . . . a concordance to the Bible, we can find no better medium than the Internet. But if we want to read the Bible, to study it, think about it, reflect upon it, we should have it in our hands, for that is the only way of getting it into our minds and our hearts."—Gertrude Himmelfarb, distinguished professor emeritus, City University, New York.
YES - jl (2012) What Is God's Will?
Learn about us online. Visit the official Web site of Jehovah's Witnesses at www.jw.org. There you can read the Bible online and view or print out many of our publications in over 400 languages.
USING ELECTRONIC TABLETS
RULING THAT THEY CAN'T BE USED ON THE PLATFORM - Nov 8, 2011 BOE letter:
However, at this time, an electronic tablet or other similar device should not be used on the platform, such as for reading the paragraphs at the Watchtower Study, conducting a meeting, or giving a talk of any kind.
In addition to the possibility of a technical problem occurring, it is felt that using an electronic tablet from the platform could prompt others to feel that they too should invest in such a device. Additionally, since many brothers cannot afford such a device, using one prominently from the stage could, in effect, create "class distinctions" or appear to be a "showy display of one's means of life."
THEY CAN BE USED ON THE PLATFORM AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY RULES - Oct 12, 2013 BOE letter:
Electronic tablets have become increasingly common in many parts of the world. So the Governing Body has decided that the use of such devices from the platform at our theocratic events should be left to the individual discretion of each program participant. This is not something for which elders would need to establish a rule.
DON'T SELL YOUR KIDNEY TO GET ONE - w13 1/15 p. 17 par. 3 Keep Drawing Close to Jehovah
We can, however, also become obsessed with computer technology. Marketers cleverly convince people that they must have the latest products. One young man so passionately desired a particular tablet computer that he secretly sold one of his kidneys to buy it. What a shortsighted sacrifice!
START PUSHING THEIR USE - g 4/13 p. 16 Get to Our Online Content Quickly!
Beginning with this issue, Awake! will feature QR (quick response) codes. What are they? Special matrix codes that will give you easy access to our Web site. All you need is a tablet that has a camera and Internet access or a smartphone.
DON'T FEEL PRESSURED TO BUY ONE - w2014 8/15 pp3-5:-
"However, you can remain spiritually strong whether you have access to our Web site or not. The slave has worked hard to provide enough printed material to keep each domestic spiritually well-fed. Therefore, you should not feel obligated to buy a device just to access jw.org. Some may make private arrangements to print a limited amount of material published on our Web site and give it personally to those who do not have Internet access, but congregations are not required to do this."
USE ONE ON THE MINISTRY AND AT THE MEETINGS - 2016 May 2-8 Christian Life and Ministry
'APPLY YOURSELF TO THE MINISTRY'
Prepare This Month's Presentations: Discussion. Play each sample presentation video, and then discuss the highlights. Briefly refer to "Ways to Use JW Library" when discussing the use of a mobile device. Remind the audience to report each month the number of times they showed a video in the ministry. Encourage publishers to build their own presentation.'LIVING AS CHRISTIANS'
"Are You Using JW Library?": (15 min.) Begin with a five-minute discussion of the article. Then play and briefly discuss the video. Start Using "JW Library." Afterward, do the same with the videos "Download and Manage Publications" and "Customize the Reading Experience". Encourage all who can to install the JW Library app and download publications to their mobile device before the part "Ways to Use JW Library" is discussed during the week of May 16. -
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Request For Awake 1946 3/27 page 16 - Explanation of 1Tim 6:15-16
by Bobcat ini am endeavoring to find a digital copy of the 1946 awake (consolation?
) issue 3/27 page 16.
("3/27" was how the wt pubs index had it.).
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Found a few earlier references than you had too:
Jehovah - w1879 October Vol.1 No.4 R44 p.8
God only has that life which never had a beginning and can never end. 1 Tim. 6:16.Jesus - w1895 October 1 Vol.XVI No.19 R1872 p.226
Then, too, as perfect men they will be the superiors and natural leaders of the world, and, according to promise, Christ will make them chiefs or "princes in all the earth." (Psa. 45:16.) They will be the seen representatives (Luke 13:28) of God's Kingdom, while Christ and the Church, the real spiritual rulers, will be unseen.--1 Tim. 6:16; Heb. 1:3; 1 John 3:2.Jehovah - w1895 October 15 Vol.XVI No.20 R1879 p.239
This quality inheres in Jehovah God alone, as it is written, "The Father hath life in himself" (John 5:26); i.e., his existence is not a derived one, nor a sustained one. He "only hath immortality" (1 Tim. 6:16)Jesus - w1900 December 15 Vol.XXI No.24 R2747 p.383 "WHO ONLY HATH IMMORTALITY"--WHO?
Question.--How should we understand 1 Tim. 6:14-16? Is it the Father or the Son who is referred to as the "King of kings and Lord of lords, who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto," etc.?
Answer.--We understand that the Apostle here refers to our Lord Jesus.Jehovah - w1906 Vol. XXVII No.11 R3788 p.172
[Jesus is] God manifest in the flesh--the best possible manifestation of the Father amongst men, of that heavenly Father of whom it is declared, "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen or can see." (1 Tim. 6:16.) -
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Request For Awake 1946 3/27 page 16 - Explanation of 1Tim 6:15-16
by Bobcat ini am endeavoring to find a digital copy of the 1946 awake (consolation?
) issue 3/27 page 16.
("3/27" was how the wt pubs index had it.).
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Bobcat, some of your references are not quite correct.
Here are the results I found:
WHO DOES 1TIM 6:15-16 APPLY TO?
Jehovah - w1931 3/1 p. 76 para.2
In 1 Timothy 6: 16 it is stated that originally God only had immortality.Jehovah - w1932 4/1 p. 104 "The Dawn Of Creation"
God is invisible to man, and always will be. It is He "who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see; to whom be honour and power everlasting". (1 Tim. 6: 16)Both Jehovah and Jesus - hp42 p.44 - (1942 "Hope in a Righteous World")
The apostle Paul, writing, of course, prior to the return of Christ Jesus and the setting up of the Kingdom, says of God: "Who ONLY HATH IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen." (1 Timothy 6:16) Had Jesus been immortal when he came to earth he could not have died as a ransom for humankind; but now since his resurrection from the dead, at which time God clothed him upon with immortality, the foregoing text (1 Timothy 6: 16) also applies to Christ Jesus as the only immortal creature of God.Jesus - w1948 10/15 p. 317
the apostle Paul said of Jesus at that time: "The King of kings, and Lord of lords; who only hath immortality." (1 Tim. 6: 15, 16)Jehovah - w64 7/1 p. 406 par. 10 "Fully Accomplish Your Ministry"
You may wonder how frail, mortal creatures could possibly reflect Jehovah’s glory, when no man can see his face and live. (Ex. 33:20; compare also 1 Timothy 6:16)
Jesus - w66 1/15 p. 39 "The Sign of the Son of Man"
Like his Father, Jesus now "dwells in unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see."—Acts 1:11; 1 Tim. 6:15, 16.Both Jehovah and Jesus? - w68 9/1 p. 520 Is Your Soul Immortal?
At 1 Timothy 1:17 and 6:16 God and Christ are spoken of as being immortal, or incorruptible.Jesus - w69 8/15 p. 484 Christ's Return—What Does It Mean for You?
As a mighty invisible spirit creature, the resurrected Jesus "dwells in an unapproachable light," and "not one of men has seen or can see" him.— 1 Tim. 6:16.
Jesus - w08 9/15 p. 31 par. 2 Highlights From the Letters to the Thessalonians and to Timothy
1 Tim 6:15, 16 - Do these words apply to Jehovah God or to Jesus Christ? These words apply to the one whose manifestation they describe, namely, Jesus Christ.