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  ARC Live Streaming site ?

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?

  i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.

  also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).

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  O'Brien getting to WT's main concern now, can WT reduce the number of claims against them for the purpose of redress.

  It's all about the dollar.
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  ARC Live Streaming site ?

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?

  i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.

  also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).

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  Splash

  This doublespeak from Spinks about not shunning those who leave may work on jw's but Stewart and McClellan have seen right through it.
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  ARC Live Streaming site ?

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?

  i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.

  also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).

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  Splash

  Spinks will literally tell the ARC anything they want to hear.

  How can something be policy if it's not in their policy?

  This policy document that has taken 2 years to write and has still not been released (will it really ever be?) has been discredited as vague and factually incorrect within 30 minutes of examination. This is what happens when unqualified, insular men think they can do without true experts.

  And that's before they discuss the two witness rule.......
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  What is the basis for advising “Don’t pursue higher studies”?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two elders who visited my friend last week encouraged her not to pursue higher studies.

  it seems they are dishing out the same old stuff: “the end is imminent, and this is the time to do more in the service; hence don’t waste your resources on higher studies.”.

  i wonder whether there was some official communiqué (something that is sent out recently like letter to the elders, or kingdom ministry article …).

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  As OrphanCrow correctly states, the teaching stems from over one hundred years ago:

  w1910 March 1, p. 84-85
  "we have more than once called attention to in these columns, that the spread of education, and increase of wealth, are not tending to make mankind happier, holier or more content, but rather the reverse."

  
  

  It was most recently reiterated last year:

  w16 June p.21 para. 14 Jehovah Our God Is One Jehovah
  "Or the love of the world might involve efforts to attain "great things," such as through the pursuit of higher education."

  
  

  However this does not prevent the WT from reading letters to the congregations asking for highly educated and degree qualified lawyers, or from having doctors, dentists, architects, pilots and fund managers at Bethel.
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  March Broadcast Governing Body Truly Enjoy our new Facility Warwick

  by Buster k in

  1. social
  2. current

  hello everyone first post, i will leave my whole story for another post.

  but i would like to say hello to everyone and wish everyone here much love and support.

  and i should also note of my self i might say things that are odd or makes no sense, but then that is my humour.

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  Splash

  they were building a spiritual project for Jehovah
  

  Surprising, given TM3 originally said he didn't know if this is what Jehovah wanted.

  Unless "Jehovah" is the new name they use for the GB.
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  Looking for my little sister.

  by DeadmanWalking in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a little sister havnt seen or heard from in 20 years she was da for attending a church she was 17 at the time she moved out and lived with a family not jw's in fact they are very a posed to jw's the past 20 years i've tried to make contact she won't respond all i know is she's got kids 2 or 3 of them she lives outside charlotte nc and works for a insurance company as an underwriter.

  i think her husband is a police officer ?

  being back in her life having a niece or nephew to watch grow up would be nice.

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  Once you have declared someone as dead to you for 20 years, it's going to take an awful lot of persuading that they are miraculously alive once again.

  It may be that they choose to remain that way since having to handle the distress of being cut off yet still making a success of life.

  Unfortunate, but it seems remarkable to me to expect anything from her when you once supported kicking her to the curb when she was nothing but a child.

  Edited to add: If I were in her position I'd ask that you DA'd yourself before I'd even consider reconnecting.
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  February 26, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Witnessing in Public Places

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  february 26, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: witnessing in public places.

  and.

  february 25, 2017 to all congregations re: magnetic boards and posters for public witnessing.

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  the letters have made it very clear that witnesses are on their own doing this work. All the org do is provide the carts and literature.
  

  Actually the org provide all the instructions, materials, governance, qualification rules, training, dress code and time slip reporting procedures.

  The only thing they don't provide is protection for their unpaid employees.
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  Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

  by Deaconblues1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

  society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

  jehovah has indeed blessed us.

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  Splash

  it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the Wt. Society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank. Jehovah has indeed blessed us. HIS people!
  

  The Catholics have more money than WT does. Your logic means that Jehovah is blessing them more.

  Besides, since when is money any proof of God's blessing?
  Does this mean wealthy individuals are being individually blessed by God?
  If so then there are many JW's who are not being blessed, having been falsely told 50 years ago that they would never grow old in this system, so skipped getting properly educated.

  As usual, the simple mind of a parroting JW does not stand up to any level of questioning.

  The reason I no longer associate has nothing to do with the preconceived ideas you swallow from the WT.
  I no longer associate because the JW teachings are based on sand, are mans philosophy, and are provably wrong.
  You can ignore every single example of where the WT have got things wrong, you can excuse all their mistakes, flip flops, teaching changes, deceptive misquotes, appalling treatment of the flock, love of money and history rewriting (AKA 'lies') if you wish to remain blind. That is your choice.

  As for me, I've accepted that everything I was taught by JW's simply does not stand up to rational, honest, unbiased investigation, therefore the GB are not specially blessed by God, therefore I have no duty to follow them.

  I suspect that you will continue to blindly believe everything you are told, even when they switch ideas 180 degrees. "It's so clear now. It just makes sense!". Until it changes again...
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  Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission - Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower to appear on 10 March 2017

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  latest date just published for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower.

  the public hearings will commence friday 10 march 2017 at the child abuse royal commission's hearing rooms in sydney.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

  the scope and purpose of the public hearing is to inquire into:.

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  Splash

  Since the ARC first investigated JW's, WT have released a number of new instructions and policy documents.

  My guess is that buried in those new documents are words and sentences, intentionally placed, which can now be used as evidence of changes, or intent of changes being made.

  Whether these new instructions materially affect the way child abuse is handled in the congregations is another matter, and one that the ARC will have to hunt through the fog of Theocratic Warfare Strategy to correctly ascertain.

  The WT is an experienced master of practised deceit. Only extreme levels of scrutiny will expose their craftiness, trickery and lies.
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  Didn't G. Jackson tell the ARC that JW's don't smack their kids?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the wt book "family life" (1978) had something to say on this topic:.

  *** fl chap.

  10 pp.

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  The WT book "Family Life" (1978) had something to say on this topic:

  *** fl chap. 10 pp. 131-132 pars. 2-5 The Value of Disciplining in Love ***

  "Many child psychologists put a “hands off” sign on children [...] But in his Word, God says: “He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.” (Pr 13:24, RSV) A few decades ago, particularly in Western nations, books on child training, with their theories of permissiveness, flooded the market. Discipline would inhibit the child and stunt its development, the psychologists said; and as for spanking, just the thought of it was horrifying to them. Their theories collided head on with Jehovah God’s counsel. His Word says you ‘reap what you sow.’ (Galatians 6:7) "

  "A spanking may be a lifesaver to a child, for God’s Word says: “Do not hold back discipline from the mere boy. In case you beat him with the rod, he will not die. With the rod you yourself should beat him, that you may deliver his very soul from Sheol [the grave] itself.” Again, “Foolishness is tied up with the heart of a boy; the rod of discipline is what will remove it far from him.” (Proverbs 23:13, 14; 22:15) If parents hold their children’s life interests dear to them, they will not weakly or carelessly let disciplinary action slip from their hands. "

  The latest mention of it is from a 2006 WT which still condones it:

  *** w06 11/1 p. 5 Reliable Advice for Raising Children ***

  What the EXPERTS Say . . . What the BIBLE Says

  On Discipline:
  

  Dr. James Dobson wrote in The Strong-Willed Child (1978): “Corporal punishment in the hands of a loving parent is a teaching tool by which harmful behavior is inhibited.” On the other hand, in an article adapted from the seventh edition of the popular book Baby and Child Care (1998), Dr. Benjamin Spock said: “Spanking teaches children that the larger, stronger person has the power to get his way, whether or not he is in the right.”

  With regard to discipline, the Bible states: “The rod and reproof are what give wisdom.” (Proverbs 29:15) However, not all children need physical punishment.

  When I was small it was common for kids to be taken out and smacked for not being able to sit still for 2 hours straight. It happened at every meeting, especially the late night mid week ones.
  Despite WT still considering this acceptable to the point of being desirable, I've not seen it quite so much recently.
  Maybe parents are deciding for themselves that there are better ways, and it's just the old guard in each congregation who sit and silently fume when children are not marched out the back for a good beating.