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  "aww, But it's not MY fault, someone else is to blame!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was just thinking about the account of adam and eve, and how they both attempted to 'pass the buck', or shift the blame to someone else.

  eve to the snake, and adam to eve.... does that sound familiar??.

  the society has never taken ownership of its mistakes!

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  Adam blames Eve, and every JW believes that Eve ate the fruit and later gave some to Adam.

  This is not exactly what the Bible says in Gen 3:6:

  (NWT) "So she began taking of its fruit and eating it. Afterward she gave some also to her husband when with her and he began eating it."

  (Every other Bible in the world) "So she took some of the fruit and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it."

  It seems that Adam was right there with Eve, watching what was going on and being a direct accomplice in this eating, but the WT want you to think that it was all Eve's fault.
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  The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a man can be a father .

  a man can be a son.

  a man can be a husband.

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  Why stop at three?

  A man can also be a manager, worker, thief, doctor, brother, cousin, asleep, dead, happy, rich...

  Everyone a different aspect of him.
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by obarac in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on saturday, october 7.. any chance to get user name and password for stream?.

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  Making Our Blows Count "For many years, people read our mags but have done nothing to make progress. We need to refocus."
  

  If this means the end of cosy chats with long time return visits I can see the field service losing one of its only plus points.

  Can you imagine pioneers with 20 such calls telling them they're not coming anymore because they're a waste of time?

  They will lose places to go when it's cold or raining, toilet stops, placements, return visits or studies on their report card, and easy time.

  Well done WT!
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  October 1, 1914 - October 1 2017 (103 Years)

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “october 1, 1914, on taking his place at the breakfast table in the brooklyn bethel dining-room, he in a strong voice denoting conviction announced: “the gentile times have ended!” “ – watchtower july 15, 1950 page 216 paragraph 1. .

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  Ding Anyone who is tempted to think the WT is "the truth" should read The Finished Mystery.

  And today's publications are tomorrow's Finished Mystery.
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  Getting your WT files deleted (UK)

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the uk are tightening up their data protection laws to make it easier for individuals to get hold of the information organisations hold on them and to get it deleted.. i think paul grundy (jwfacts) went through this with wt once and found it very time consuming and difficult.. will wt now abide by the law and hand over or permanently delete the records it keeps when requested?it would mean every uk exjw could have their report card info, personal file with age, sex, baptism date, judicial information, appointment/deletion/disfellowshipping dates, letters of disassociation, letters of recommendation when you move, phone number and address permanently removed.

  anyone acting for the wt (elders) who retain this information, eg your phone number in their phone or the secretary keeping your historical monthly report details, will be in violation.

  failure to comply will incur a fine.. expect a letter to all boe's any time soon explaining why this does not apply to them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062.

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  AverageJoe1 you would know for sure if you turned up at a new congregation, said you're a witness and just give them your name and baptism date.

  I agree.

  If you've requested your files be deleted and they come back with information about you, they have proven they did not delete the files as mandated by law.

  Same as if they come shepherding you after you've requested to be removed from their files. They should not act on personal information (like your address) that they should no longer know.
  
  
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  Getting your WT files deleted (UK)

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the uk are tightening up their data protection laws to make it easier for individuals to get hold of the information organisations hold on them and to get it deleted.. i think paul grundy (jwfacts) went through this with wt once and found it very time consuming and difficult.. will wt now abide by the law and hand over or permanently delete the records it keeps when requested?it would mean every uk exjw could have their report card info, personal file with age, sex, baptism date, judicial information, appointment/deletion/disfellowshipping dates, letters of disassociation, letters of recommendation when you move, phone number and address permanently removed.

  anyone acting for the wt (elders) who retain this information, eg your phone number in their phone or the secretary keeping your historical monthly report details, will be in violation.

  failure to comply will incur a fine.. expect a letter to all boe's any time soon explaining why this does not apply to them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40826062.

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  A small update on this.

  The EU laws will be brought in from May 2018.
  There's a description of "The right to erasure (the right to be forgotten)" which is very interesting.

  If you ask to be forgotten by the WT but in the future they contact you (e.g. the elders phone or call on you), they may have violated this directive and the financial penalties are potentially high.

  Who's going to be first to try it?
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  So today this happened...

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you all pretty much know my story so i won't repeat it but.... to say i'm being hounded by my local congregation is an understatement.

  today the cobe finally found us in.

  well, i refused to answer the door but my husband did.

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  There's a sad irony when someone who believes everything he reads tells you not to believe everything you read.
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  Now Scottish history disproves the flood

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt state that the global flood that wiped everything away happened in 2370 bce.. there's been a wealth of evidence from many quarters which prove that life continued as normal for civilizations during that time period.. now scotland adds to that body of evidence as detailed in this bbc report:.

  neolithic orkney - new study.

  key dates indicated by the study.

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  Splash

  WT state that the global flood that wiped everything away happened in 2370 BCE.

  There's been a wealth of evidence from many quarters which prove that life continued as normal for civilizations during that time period.

  Now Scotland adds to that body of evidence as detailed in this BBC report:

  Neolithic Orkney - new study

  Key dates indicated by the study
  

  • Orkney was probably first colonised in 3600 BC
  • Settlement peaked in the period 3100-2900 BC
  • There was a phase of decline 2800-2600 BC, measured by the number of stone houses in use
  • Settlement resumed in 2600-2300 BC, and it could have been about this time that the Ring of Brodgar itself was erected.

  The evidence keeps rolling in.
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  JW critically injured after being electrocuted in assembly hall

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a newspaper reports that in bornem, belgium, a jw volunteer was critically injured after being electrocuted:.

  bornem - a man was electrocuted while performing maintenance on a high voltage installation in the assembly hall of jw in bornem friday afternoon.

  the man was critically injured.. possibly the man, who is a volunteer with the jw, tried to clean the installation with a vacuum cleaner.

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  Belgium is the heart of EU bureaucracy, I'm certain there will be an inquest.

  Hopefully they will inspect the rest of the building and the operating procedures too. This is another opportunity for God's organisation to be improved by Satan's more caring system.

  The victim was transported to a hospital in Sint-Niklaas.
  

  I find it ironic that he was treated at Father Christmas' hospital.
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  JWs MUST Accept The Watchtower Teachings EVEN When They Are Wrong!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  isn't it unbelievable that a jehovah's witness must accept whatever the organization says or they can be disfellowshipped??

  unless they tell you that their understanding has changed, you cannot believe anything unless they say it's ok. .

  many years ago i questioned them about their ridiculous view that whenever the word "heart" was mentioned, it was a literal blood filled organ.

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  Fisherman Who has the authority to determine whether or not any WT teaching is wrong?

  You don't need authority to do that, just a little bit of common sense and honesty.