Posts by Splash

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My Cognitive Dissonance is Eating Me Alive (Intro Post)

by pometerre21 in

jw
friends

i've been lurking here for a couple of weeks now.

i'm starting to "awaken" and it is all that has been occupying my mind.

i've always, always had doubts, some of which i expressed to family members who always had the same replies:.

Splash

Welcome!

I know just how you feel because I was there myself a while back. It's like you can't believe what you hear is really true and everything that you've been told in the past is thrown into doubt. It really consumes you to think that maybe it isn't the truth after all. It has to be, right?

Well just keep researching. Be true to yourself. Don't be afraid to let yourself ask questions and find out for yourself. Recognise when you have factual information and when you are being fobbed off.

You may know some good things about your religion, but there are good things Catholics point to about theirs too. And every other religion. Do those things make your religion true? What about the false teachings in your religion? What about the mental anxiety your religion causes you, probably without you even recognising it? (e.g. if you don't go out on service, have low hours for the month, miss a meeting, don't pre-study your watchtower, having a talk on the school, an elder asks to give you a shepherding visit...)?

Just do your research and relax. Vent on here, we won't add to your fear or anxiety.

Aug 1995 BOE re Abuse (extract)

by Splash in

it would be appropriate to talk very frankly to a former child abuser, strongly cautioning.

him as to the dangers of hugging or holding children on his lap and that he should never be in the.

presence of a child without another adult being present.

Splash

It would be appropriate to talk very frankly to a former child abuser, strongly cautioning

him as to the dangers of hugging or holding children on his lap and that he should never be in the

presence of a child without another adult being present. This may prevent putting that one in the

way of temptation or unfounded accusation. At the same time, it is good to remember that the

Bible, at Matthew 12:31 and I Corinthians 6:9-11, shows it is possible for a person to stop his or

her wrongful course, repent, and thereafter live in harmony with God's righteous standards. This

is true of all wrongdoers-even a former child abuser.

While it is unscriptural to say that a former child abuser could never enjoy exemplary

privileges of service in the congregation, certainly the elders will want to be very cautious, especially

when one had repeatedly engaged in this kind of wrongdoing or had been disfellowshipped

for such an offense.

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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

by poopie in

jw
friends

what do you think there hiding?.

Splash

Fisherman if wt wanted to protect a perpetrator, why record the incident?

It's an unintended consequence of their completely controlling nature.

Of course they never anticipated having to share this information, but they count hours, lands, magazines printed, magazines placed, assembly attendances, ... it never ends. If WT can count something they will, even child abusers and their victims.

The faithful slave has proven to be less than discreet.

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Jehovah uses the government to discipline his people

by StephaneLaliberte in

i had a conversation with my dad concerning the legal cases the jws are loosing and how their policies are still lacking.

he answered that he has confidence that jehovah will give his people the wisdom and discernment necessary to make the changes.

i then explained that most of the improvements were made as a result of various court cases, including the australian commission.. my dad: well, than, jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the jews.

Splash

My Dad: Well, than, Jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the Jews.

Just like he does with all the other criminals you mean?

Question: What's the difference between the government punishing JWs and the government punishing other crimes?

Answer: "Do you believe the GB are leading God's people today?"

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"Armageddon is already here"; "the preaching work is done" -- rogue teachings in your congregation?

by FatFreek 2005 in

one of my jw sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-jw brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings.

wild statements like our topic title, which i know are not supported at jw dot org, have been made to my non-jw son several times over the past year or so.

while i haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations i tend to believe that the jw son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-jw since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the jws faith in wt teachings.. either my jw son is lying about what i would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain wt issues.. based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and wt organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.. what do you think?

Splash

We once had a public speaker say that proof the nephilim existed in Noah's day was Stone Henge in the UK.

Apparently the stone structure was built by these demon giant hybrids.

43

Independent Catalonia

by mikeflood in

it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

Splash

This is a fulfillment of Daniels image, the feet of iron and clay.

It can only mean one thing - Armageddon is close!

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Hellaby UK circuit A$$emb£y this Sunday

by punkofnice in

my spies tell me that the attendance for hellaby this last sunday was only 600.. that's all i know.

i imagine some on here have perhaps some more insights into why.

however, it seems rather low, don't you think?.

Splash

I heard from an RBC relative up that way that it was this assembly hall that did a roof repair recently, the volunteers did it wrong and it had to be done again at a cost of £300,000.

How comes Jehovah blessed Warwick but not Hellaby?

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Today's W.T when it mentioned Depression and Anxiety

by Isambard Crater in

our co-ordinator put his hand up and commented saying that people who go on about how depressed or anxious they are just need to stop giving in to impulses and show more self control without letting their emotions rule their lives.. if anyone from the media, a government agency or some other public body heard a comment like that, they'd have a hard time exercising self control over the rubbish this elder spouted, which my friends and family with genuine depression found insulting..

Splash

That elders comment is like telling someone with a cold to stop having a cold, or telling someone with a broken arm that they shouldn't let their arm be broken.

And I bet he was very proud of his assertive and insightful comment.

My old congregation had dolt elders like this guy. They are not uncommon.

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Why Jehovah witnesses don't say, "Bless you" ?

by Issa in

jw
friends

bless you, that was a big sneeze you let out sister.. sister- ah, what does "bless you" mean?.

oh, it's pagan.

because people bless the soul of the person so they don't escape from their physical bodies.. sister- right, it is difficult to change the little things, but we can please jehovah by staying away from those things.. .... this is a scenario that happened when i accidentally (naturally) said "bless you" to the jw sister.

Splash

Sister- Ah, what does "bless you" mean?

You- It doesn't mean anything anymore, it's polite social etiquette

Sister- Ah, but it has pagan origins!

You- What's that ring on your index finger?

Sister- But no-one associates that ring with paganism today

You- A bit like saying "Bless you" you mean. I've heard you say "Goodbye". Did you know that means "God be with you", another form of blessing?

Sister- I'm just trying to help you.

You- Bless you. Goodbye.

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Altered Scriptures?

by punkofnice in

my spies tell me that the jobos recently had a broadcast where 2 scriptures have been changed.. luke 22.26you, though, are not to be that way.

but let the one who is the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the one taking the lead as the one ministering.. 1 tim 3:1this statement is trustworthy: if a man is reaching out to be an overseer,+ he is desirous of a fine work.

i don't have the tech to locate the broadcast right now.

Splash

But let the one who is the greatest among you become as the youngest

The Geneva Bible (1599) and King James (1604) both use 'youngest/younger'.