Posts by Splash

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New NWT, then and now - a comparison of the 2013 NWT, 2013 vs 2017.

by MeanMrMustard in

acts 2:9. old text:.

acts 2:10. old text:.

acts 2:11. old text:.

Splash

Thanks MMM, I still have the comparison work from your original project - brilliant problem solving!

I've found all the differences in the above list. Most are single character changes or insertions, with just a few textual changes.

Oil trees become pine trees and a couple of other minor changes which do not appear to have a fundamental thought change.

For your info, a font change wouldn't trigger a hit in your algorithm because a font is merely a collection of glyphs which overlay the underlying unicode values.

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Can JW's celebrate Hannukah?

by Splash in

what's the official teaching on celebrating this jewish festival?.

Splash

So the Awake! from 27 years ago is the last reference to Hanukkah and merely says "there is no reason for Christians to commemorate Hanukkah".

Their reasoning is that the old Law no longer applies. Maybe they should remember that when they start using the Hebrew scriptures to create their own catalogue of laws. Anyway...

There's no reason to have fish on a Friday, but it's not wrong to.

There's no reason to do lots of things, but if you do do them they're not necessarily wrong.

That WT article also quotes Paul as saying "let no man judge you in eating and drinking or in respect of a festival ", which is precisely what WT try to do.

The bottom line is that WT would like to stop you from celebrating Hanukkah, and tries to word things in such a way as to make you think you shouldn't, but they are once again over stepping their authority and making rules they cannot justify.

My recommendation is that if you see a JW on the street, at a cart or at your door, wish them Happy Hanukkah and see how they squirm!

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Can JW's celebrate Hannukah?

by Splash in

what's the official teaching on celebrating this jewish festival?.

Splash

What's the official teaching on celebrating this Jewish festival?

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Bringing reproach on Jehovah's name.

by ScottyRex in

jw
friends

i have thought long and hard about this, you know in those midnight hours.. you will probably string me alive in what i say, but here you go-.

i feel that the jw's do have the truth.

i do agree with the doctrines and biblical exgenesis they propound.i do feel that they have the 'truth' i do understand they are imperfect, and i think they have had to 'refine' their teachings as time has gone on-and change accordingly- i see nothing wrong with this.

Splash

ScottyRex I feel that the JW's do have the truth. I really do.

Hi Scotty, instead of feeling, why not look at the facts?

WT have been wrong so many times they have worse predictions than a fair ground fortune teller.

And what about this New Light? Is it really new light from God when they change a teaching, then change it back again? You say it's the truth, but don't you realise that it has changed countless times and will continue to change? What you call "The Truth" today is not the same as the truth yesterday and not the same as the truth tomorrow. It ping pongs back and forth more than a Chinese table tennis competition. How can you trust life decisions to something so wishy washy?

Don't believe it's as bad as I say, read this.

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How do JWs pronounce COBE?

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

just wondering.

when i was a witness, we had presiding overseer, and would say p-o for short.

do they spell it out when they say cobe or do they say it with as a word?

Splash

Thanks CoCo!!

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My Cognitive Dissonance is Eating Me Alive (Intro Post)

by pometerre21 in

jw
friends

i've been lurking here for a couple of weeks now.

i'm starting to "awaken" and it is all that has been occupying my mind.

i've always, always had doubts, some of which i expressed to family members who always had the same replies:.

Splash

Welcome!

I know just how you feel because I was there myself a while back. It's like you can't believe what you hear is really true and everything that you've been told in the past is thrown into doubt. It really consumes you to think that maybe it isn't the truth after all. It has to be, right?

Well just keep researching. Be true to yourself. Don't be afraid to let yourself ask questions and find out for yourself. Recognise when you have factual information and when you are being fobbed off.

You may know some good things about your religion, but there are good things Catholics point to about theirs too. And every other religion. Do those things make your religion true? What about the false teachings in your religion? What about the mental anxiety your religion causes you, probably without you even recognising it? (e.g. if you don't go out on service, have low hours for the month, miss a meeting, don't pre-study your watchtower, having a talk on the school, an elder asks to give you a shepherding visit...)?

Just do your research and relax. Vent on here, we won't add to your fear or anxiety.

Aug 1995 BOE re Abuse (extract)

by Splash in

it would be appropriate to talk very frankly to a former child abuser, strongly cautioning.

him as to the dangers of hugging or holding children on his lap and that he should never be in the.

presence of a child without another adult being present.

Splash

It would be appropriate to talk very frankly to a former child abuser, strongly cautioning

him as to the dangers of hugging or holding children on his lap and that he should never be in the

presence of a child without another adult being present. This may prevent putting that one in the

way of temptation or unfounded accusation. At the same time, it is good to remember that the

Bible, at Matthew 12:31 and I Corinthians 6:9-11, shows it is possible for a person to stop his or

her wrongful course, repent, and thereafter live in harmony with God's righteous standards. This

is true of all wrongdoers-even a former child abuser.

While it is unscriptural to say that a former child abuser could never enjoy exemplary

privileges of service in the congregation, certainly the elders will want to be very cautious, especially

when one had repeatedly engaged in this kind of wrongdoing or had been disfellowshipped

for such an offense.

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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

by poopie in

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friends

what do you think there hiding?.

Splash

Fisherman if wt wanted to protect a perpetrator, why record the incident?

It's an unintended consequence of their completely controlling nature.

Of course they never anticipated having to share this information, but they count hours, lands, magazines printed, magazines placed, assembly attendances, ... it never ends. If WT can count something they will, even child abusers and their victims.

The faithful slave has proven to be less than discreet.

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Jehovah uses the government to discipline his people

by StephaneLaliberte in

i had a conversation with my dad concerning the legal cases the jws are loosing and how their policies are still lacking.

he answered that he has confidence that jehovah will give his people the wisdom and discernment necessary to make the changes.

i then explained that most of the improvements were made as a result of various court cases, including the australian commission.. my dad: well, than, jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the jews.

Splash

My Dad: Well, than, Jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the Jews.

Just like he does with all the other criminals you mean?

Question: What's the difference between the government punishing JWs and the government punishing other crimes?

Answer: "Do you believe the GB are leading God's people today?"

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"Armageddon is already here"; "the preaching work is done" -- rogue teachings in your congregation?

by FatFreek 2005 in

one of my jw sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-jw brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings.

wild statements like our topic title, which i know are not supported at jw dot org, have been made to my non-jw son several times over the past year or so.

while i haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations i tend to believe that the jw son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-jw since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the jws faith in wt teachings.. either my jw son is lying about what i would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain wt issues.. based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and wt organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.. what do you think?

Splash

We once had a public speaker say that proof the nephilim existed in Noah's day was Stone Henge in the UK.

Apparently the stone structure was built by these demon giant hybrids.