So what does it mean when the GB don't have a unanimous decision on something, as they have previously stated in the WT?
I guess they just refer to the higher authority - TM3.
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by Kevin McFree inhttps://youtu.be/j3htfvmgr50.
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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality
by SecondRateMind ini am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
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2RM It's quite simple, really. The rich man has more than he needs, and the starving have less than they need. Morality, in this scenario, is simply a matter of ensuring both have adequate for their needs.
It's not just simple, it's simplistic.
The poor man would be better served by education, a great business case, hard work and a loan, not a handout.
Why do you think multi billionaire philanthropists refuse to simply give their wealth away? It's because they know that simplistic ideas like yours don't work.
Your. Idea. Doesn't. Work.
It doesn't matter how long you bang on about it, how elaborately you state it or how many people you insult who point out your lack of logic and comprehension, it won't make an unworkable idea workable.
You keep telling people to reread the thread, so my advice to you is the same. Reread the thread. Open your ears. Think. Up your game. Learn. Your proposition is kindergarten level economics.
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Reaction to baptism figures
by neat blue dog intalking about tomorrow's wt study, that mentions over a quarter of a million baptized every year, a jw asked how many that is a day.
i got out my calculator and answered over 778 a day.
of course they were amazed at the growth, but immediatly i googled another statistic and read it aloud:.
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Splash
Roughly 280,000 baptised.
Minus 1% of the 8 million jw's who die every year (80,000)
Minus another 1% (80,000) disfellowshipped each year
Gives an increase of 120,000, approximately 1.5% per year, and does not include faders.
This is not dissimilar to the world population growth rate of 1.1%, certainly nothing to brag about or stake a claim that the growth is God's doing.
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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality
by SecondRateMind ini am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
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It is the height of naivity to think that giving money to the poor will solve poverty.
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Brilliant Medical Advice from the Slave
by Vanderhoven7 innot sure where i picked this up:.
self explanatory science and medical advice from the faithful and brilliant servant class in brooklyn________________________________________thomas edison, the inventor and electrician, of phonograph and telephone fame, has been experimenting with the new light "x-rays.
" and has succeeded in taking a photograph through oak eight inches thick.
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Splash
nowwhat? My head is spinning!
Maybe you need to take a sunbath for the ultra violet rays, or an air bath - bobbing up and down naked.
Whatever you do don't take an aspirin, it causes heart disease!
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Splash
What a turn of events!
It was only a few years ago that the elders read out a letter from the GB asking for monthly money pledges because "we need 10,000 new halls", or something similar.
That couldn't possibly have been a lie could it?
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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality
by SecondRateMind ini am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
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2RM all your wealth, however derived, is down to God's providence
Then you should be telling God that there are poor, suffering, impoverished people on this planet of His, instead of trying to save the world yourself.
If God's providence determines someone's wealth, have you considered that you may be resisting God's plan by trying to spread the wealth? What makes you think you are wiser than God?
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Brilliant Medical Advice from the Slave
by Vanderhoven7 innot sure where i picked this up:.
self explanatory science and medical advice from the faithful and brilliant servant class in brooklyn________________________________________thomas edison, the inventor and electrician, of phonograph and telephone fame, has been experimenting with the new light "x-rays.
" and has succeeded in taking a photograph through oak eight inches thick.
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Splash
Proof that the WT have been spouting ludicrous ignorance for a century or more.
Keep in mind that through all of this time, the WT claim that the source of this ridiculous and harmful information has never changed. It is all from Jehovah, through His faithful slave.
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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality
by SecondRateMind ini am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
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Splash
Once you strip the captains of industry and philanthropist billionaires of their capital, who steps in to give their 10,000's of employees jobs, and who furthers their good causes which give hope to other 10,000's?
Take billions of dollars from pharma companies, and who then will be able to invest in medical R&D.
If 2RM had their way, that $16k per year would crash year on year as the Gross World Production drops off a cliff and we return to the middle ages.
Lower gross productivity = lower tax revenues unless the tax %ge increased to compensate. If you want to live in an impoverished country then go for it, I'd rather live in one where they can afford waste disposal, police, good roads, etc.
Dubstepped good luck with your business, it's clear that you don't live in a fantasy world!
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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality
by SecondRateMind ini am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
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2RM I am not here to be nice. Just to save the world.
Sounds like you have a mental illness. Moving on...
2RM But obviously not to a sufficient extent, or we would not have 2 billion absolutely poor, of whom 36 million a year die of preventable starvation, and countless others from other poverty related aspects of want. So, I have specified what an equitable distribution of wealth would be, in the OP, for everybody's ease of reference.
You must have comprehension difficulties if you think your answer was related to the question, so let me repeat something for you, and I will try to simplify it to match your thinking ability.
If you wish for something which is already voluntary to be (more??) voluntary, or if you want people who can already choose to do something, to choose, if you want people to decide for themselves when they are already deciding for themselves, in this case I have the unfortunate task of telling you that your plan to "save the world" may just be the simplistic reasoning of a deluded mind due to an obvious (to most) flaw in your ground breaking master plan.
Just because you don't like the informed and calculated decisions some people take regarding their own personal financial affairs, it does not mean your simplistic opinion is better. Maybe, perish the thought, it's much, much worse and the consequences of your fantasy dreaming would be quite the opposite of what you wish for.
Youdon't get to keep asking people to choose to do something voluntarily until they do it your way. They've chosen. Your grand scheme is nonsense. Deal with it.
Take care, Splash