Posts by Sauerkraut

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After a couple of days pondering the "new light" FDS change . . .

by leaving_quietly in

so, i've had a chance to ponder this "new light" of the change of definition of fds now for a couple of days.

the initial reaction was of astonishment, and just plain anger, and i can see that i'm not alone in that.

however (assuming matt 24:45-47 is prophetic, parable or not):.

Sauerkraut

Why worry about it ourselves? They have to answer for their actions. We do not. (This statement, of course, is for those who still believe in God and Christ... those who don't, just ignore.)

Sure, they'll be held accountable. Why worry about it? Look at the toll their "food" is taking. It's unhealthy, unbalanced and leads to lots of heartache. Your attitude parallels the "wait on Jehovah" attitude. We have a responsibility to do something about evil if we have the chance. Just tolerating it and looking the other way won't help anyone and quite frankly, I find it selfish. We can't change the world, and we can't change the Org, but we can at least speak up and try to do something whenever we have the chance. I think it's our responsibility. So we may have to answer for the lack of our actions if we choose to do nothing.

Finally, we're all reacting from peoples' notes. They write what they hear, or think they hear. None of this is printed in black and white for all of us to clearly see, analyze and reason on. So, I think it's just prudent to wait and see what they say on the printed page. Then, and only then, does it become an official teaching.

You're right, it still is likely that it's true. It's the culmination of a developement that has been taking place over the past years.

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The reason for the New Light on the FDS

by Badfish in

new websites have been popping up such as anointedjw.org in which witnesses who believe they are anointed are spreading the word that anyone can become anointed and go to heaven.. under the previous teaching that all anointed are part of the fds, then these sites would have much more credit because, after all, they are anointed (and therefore part of the fds).. there are copies of numerous letters to the society posted on anointedjw.org, so the society is obviously well aware.. the easiest way for the society to discredit these sites and thus discourage their message is to strip them of their fds status.

now, the fds is only the governing body, not the rest of the anointed..

Sauerkraut

You may be right. If so it wasn't a very smart move, Anointedjw have already received e-mails about this rumored change. Those with a little awareness might actually be shaken up by this. It almost looks like the GB are trying hard to get more people to leave, with this change and the latest BOE letter.

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IS TIME RUNNING OUT for this generation?

by Londo111 in

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Sauerkraut

You know, I saw a documentary a while ago about our concepts of time, it was explained that time is not as easily definable as we think. And that it is not linear, it doesn't "stream" forward as we are accustomed to think. At least that's what scientists say.

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NEW WATCHTOWER SLOGANS FOR MOTIVATION!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

jimmy page has a good one " stay on the scene till 2014!

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how about, " hit those doors till 2034!

Sauerkraut

Door to door service- keeps you tired and broke but in good health.

J.F. Rutherford- always in good spirits.

Your Governing Body- sharpest minds of the endtimes.

Pray for more Andres.

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Cedars article on new Governing Body changes

by MrsCedars in

for those who are interested.... .

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http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-says-we-are-the-faithful-and-discreet-slave.

Sauerkraut

Thanks Mrs Cedars. And thanks Cedars for writing another interesting article. Sometimes I get the feeling that the GB folks are quickly digging their own "graves". This and the latest BOE letter make them even more open to attack.

@Soft+Gentle: I wouldn't get my hopes up. Sorry to say this, but look at the many things that are already openly wrong, who's bothered with it? Even if people see things going wrong, they'll "wait on Jehovah" and do nothing. They don't see that they have responsibility, they just wait and shut their eyes. It's the same with my family, unfortunately. They won't be phased with this latest change. Many have a "I don't care, I just hope the end comes soon" attitude, it's what they focus on. Doctrinal questions and things that don't add up are of secondary importance.

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Questions on new understanding (FDS - GB)

by Weana in

some questions arise with the new understanding:.

was there a slave class between the 1st century and the 20th century?.

in w march 1, 2004, it was stated, that the slave could not be a single man, because "acording to jesus words" the slave had started his work in 1st century and would still be in action in 20th century.. was the slave in action in 1914?

Sauerkraut

Can't remember who posted that yesterday. The comparison to a Con is very fitting. They progressively lure you in and BAM.

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We will decide who is a predator! New Watchtower Instructions to Elders on Child Abuse

by Jaime l de Aragon in

must read on jehovahs witnesses watchtower arrogance in failure to warn of congregation pedophiles.. http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-will-decide-who-is-a-predator-new-watchtower-instructions-to-elders-on-child-abuse?fb_action_ids=10151270345663993&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582.

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Sauerkraut

What I keep wondering is: do these guys live in a parallel universe? How far from reality can you get? Hopefully they'll get smacked right back down to earth real soon.

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2012 Annual Meeting

by obarac in

jw
friends

2012 annual meeting - october 6th 2012.

Sauerkraut

@Panhandlegirl: the irony is that these men are neither faithful (except to themselves and their predecessors), nor are they discreet. And they're not slaves either, they act in the manner a master would act, it's as if they think they can just take the master from the parable out of the picture and instert themselves into that postition. When this will be printed it should open the eyes of everyone inside who still has some sense left, hopefully.

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2012 Annual Meeting

by obarac in

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friends

2012 annual meeting - october 6th 2012.

Sauerkraut

Then they spent an hour explaining how the faithful and discreet slave is no longer all anointed people but just the GB as a unit.

If I weren't out mentally, then this would have been my final wakeup call.

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"CULTIVATE THE SPIRIT OF A LESSER ONE"

by braincleaned in

aahhh... ya gotta hand it to the wts, they sure know how to mind-control the flock into getting them to follow unquestionably.

the nov. 25th watchtower is brilliant in encouraging the sheep to be even lesser than they already are!.

as they admit, "the greek word translated lesser one means someone who is modest, humble, lowly, insignificant, or of little esteem and influence.".

Sauerkraut

@Billy: usually those saying they're humble are the ones that really aren't. "When it comes to humility, we're #1", yeah, wouldn't surprise me if that is how they think. If they really were humble it would be more like "well, we have a lot to learn and still need to work on our humility". Fistfights? Perhaps they'll knock each other out and cause permanent damage? Oops, how politically incorrect on my part, to think such thoughts.