Sauerkraut

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  New here

  by Change Name in

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  2. experiences

  i had been studying with the jehovah's witnesses for the last couple years.

  they have been interesting study sessions and have learned quite a bit about them and their beliefs.

  much of what they teach is what i had learned through personal bible study.. growing up was normal.

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  If what you say is true, you've never been a Witness, so how much experience do you have? Can you really say you know what you're talking about?
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  Pathetic 'get out clauses' in the Bible..got any?

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  i remember years ago being on failed circus and the 'householder'(tm) was an atheist/agnostic.. he was shown the scripture: 'all scripture is inspired of god..' 2 tim 3:16. his reply: 'well, it would say that about itself wouldn't it!?!'.

  good point.

  i actually saw his point at the time too and it made me think.....though not quite enough.. i now see that scripture as a pathetic get out clause.. i also think about the justification to believe in god...otherwise you're an idiot scripture psalms 14:1. .

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  The thing about 2 Tim 3:16 is that Paul (some say the Timothy letters are forgeries, so it may not have been Paul who said that) refered to the "old testament", so using it for the complete bible is stretching things. I'm not sure that even Paul would say his letters were "scripture".
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  Who is supposed to do the "Separating Work" for the new magazines?

  by nochoice in

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  2. friends

  so, there is a bit of a fight going on in our hall between our pioneer sisters and our magazine servant.

  since the new magazines are boxed with two issues together, there is a bit of work to be done separating them.

  our magazine servant stacked them on the counter as usual, right out of the box.

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  Just let the pubs do it and let them count it as service time. Problem solved and everybody is happy. And the hours of service increase too.
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  Well we can shoot down one rumor - the 2013 district conventions are officially 3 days long...

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  ...according to a letter to all boes dated 11/11/2012.. there is nothing new or different (or interesting!

  ) in the letter.

  same stuff as has been covered over the past 20+ years.. .

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  Am I glad I won't have to get hemorrhoids from sitting in stadium chairs for three days anymore. Conventions were one of the most hated things.
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  Pat Condell on Aggressive Atheism

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
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  this is pretty much how i feel.......who disagrees with this?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yjo4duhmrzk&noredirect=1.

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  How do you feel about the violations of humans rights that are happening in the name of your and my governments today? What many western nations do these days is counter productive. Are you aware of that? Many people in other countries care more about that than any idea of human rights that you would like to pass on to them. Many don't even take us serious anymore because of that.
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  Pat Condell on Aggressive Atheism

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is pretty much how i feel.......who disagrees with this?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yjo4duhmrzk&noredirect=1.

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  But when it comes to human rights, there is no room for compromise. Those of us that have grown past that desert god, have learned from our experiences, and have worked to better things for ourselves and others, should never shirk away from these accusations. In fact I embrace them and call myself guilty of caring more about human rights than some dusty writings attributed to some tribal god. Shoot me.

  Looks like there's plenty to do in our own countries before we can even think about fixing other places.
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  Pat Condell on Aggressive Atheism

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is pretty much how i feel.......who disagrees with this?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yjo4duhmrzk&noredirect=1.

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  The irony about Iran is: it would be interesting to know how Iran would be today if the United States hadn't meddled in it's internal matters decades ago.
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  Pat Condell on Aggressive Atheism

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is pretty much how i feel.......who disagrees with this?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yjo4duhmrzk&noredirect=1.

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  What's the meaning of "WPOTD"?

  Edit: worst post of the day?
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  Pat Condell on Aggressive Atheism

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is pretty much how i feel.......who disagrees with this?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yjo4duhmrzk&noredirect=1.

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  New Chapter, I hope I can explain what I mean. Sometimes it's not so easy for me to clearly express my thoughts. What I mean is taking ourselves, as individuals too serious, or rather not to do so. I differentiate between that and taking issues and a cause serious. Because I don't take myself as an individual that serious I can deal with being wrong and respect others and what they think and am willing and open to consider what they think. But it doesn't mean that I don't take issues serious that need to be addressed, it doesn't mean that I'm not watchful. Quite contrary. I differentiate between myself and principles/issues. Lets take the hotheads in the middle east as an example. They are crazily serious about their views (fundamental Christians aren't that different). Just because I don't take myself as a person and my views overly serious it doesn't mean that I wouldn't stand up against them, I would, I do. We all have the freedom and right to have our own opinion and views, but we have the duty to grant others the same freedom. When others don't abide by that it's a matter of principle and that needs to be addressed and taken care of. It's an issue that needs to be taken serious, as you said and I fully agree with that. I hope I'm making sense. You could say one is about taking personal offense and the other about justice and fairness. When things become a matter of fairness and justice it's important to do something about it.

  Ideally we should all be able to sit down and listen to each other and say: "Hey, I don't feel or think the same way, but who knows, you may be on to something. Either way, I respect your view and how you feel." And we should confront those who are unwilling to do that. But that's another story, usually those unwilling have a problem with fairness.

  Btw, I'm not sour.
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  Pat Condell on Aggressive Atheism

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is pretty much how i feel.......who disagrees with this?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yjo4duhmrzk&noredirect=1.

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  If I don't take my beliefs too serious I will be more inclined to respect your beliefs and views. And I will be open to question mine and listen if you question mine. It's easier to give others the benefit of the doubt that way. With a mentality like that fewer people would even think about shooting others or worry about anti-blasphemy laws.

  Where did I say that things don't matter or that anyone should dismiss things? You seem to be reading more into my words than necessary.

  Outlaw evangelism.

  You have my full support!