I hate the thought that two of my brothers and one of my sisters are still in and there's nothing I can say, nothing I can do, at least that I know of to wake them up. They're all great people at heart but are in the fog. Tears me up inside.
earthfire
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The koolaid sipping aint far off now....
by sosoconfused inso today after the meeting an older pioneer sister was outside as people were talking about the wonderful experience from the yearbook of the family in nigeria or wherever that went to the meeting and the plane destroyed their neighborhood.
but since they were at the metting they lived..... .
so she says, "you heard about the ones that died in a bus crash on the way to the convention????
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The koolaid sipping aint far off now....
by sosoconfused inso today after the meeting an older pioneer sister was outside as people were talking about the wonderful experience from the yearbook of the family in nigeria or wherever that went to the meeting and the plane destroyed their neighborhood.
but since they were at the metting they lived..... .
so she says, "you heard about the ones that died in a bus crash on the way to the convention????
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earthfire
That line of thinking is so scary. I have wondered if the GB ever gets desperate, will they actually have some sort of kool-aid ceremony? I hope it never comes to that.
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maybe we should start watching what's going on in Cyprus
by Hortensia ingovernment considered a tax on savings.
banks have been shut, atms running out of cash, banks won't open again until tuesday, maybe.
lots of governments around the world are in financial difficulties, including the u.s. and the u.s. government isn't facing facts and will continue spending and spending until absolutely forced to deal with the deficit.. .
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earthfire
Wouldn't it be nice if the world would just say, "War is ridiculously espensive, let's stop that and if we have a disagreement we'll have a dance off!" That would fix a ton of problems
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Long Overdue Observation
by earthfire ini just thought this was funny when it popped into my head this morning.
funny because i should have thought of it long ago and i'm sure that i'm not the first to think this.
the big point comes after my little spiel.. so, god tells noah to build an ark because he has a lot of killing of the wicked to do and only noah and his family seem to be good enough.
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earthfire
Boy, he built that ark really fast then! Or maybe he had help from the aliens
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Long Overdue Observation
by earthfire ini just thought this was funny when it popped into my head this morning.
funny because i should have thought of it long ago and i'm sure that i'm not the first to think this.
the big point comes after my little spiel.. so, god tells noah to build an ark because he has a lot of killing of the wicked to do and only noah and his family seem to be good enough.
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earthfire
There are many flood stories just like there are many different Divine Birth stories and there are other stories similar to Moses. They go across history and have similar actors but the actors always fit a current religion. It's like a Creat Your Own Myth.
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Long Overdue Observation
by earthfire ini just thought this was funny when it popped into my head this morning.
funny because i should have thought of it long ago and i'm sure that i'm not the first to think this.
the big point comes after my little spiel.. so, god tells noah to build an ark because he has a lot of killing of the wicked to do and only noah and his family seem to be good enough.
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earthfire
Another thought to ponder upon the Great flood is why did God kill mankind and all those animals when he knew that Noah
and his family members still inherited humanity's sin from Adam and that the world would eventually return to the previous state before the flood ?
Good thought Finkelstein. The lack of critical thinking in religion, specific of course to JW for my personal interests, drives me nuts. But this is of course why I used to get into trouble. Too many questions is "a lack of faith". Morals of stories are one thing and can have great value but when taken as literal happenings then you have to be able to back those stories up with facts. It creates an all or nothing sequence.
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Long Overdue Observation
by earthfire ini just thought this was funny when it popped into my head this morning.
funny because i should have thought of it long ago and i'm sure that i'm not the first to think this.
the big point comes after my little spiel.. so, god tells noah to build an ark because he has a lot of killing of the wicked to do and only noah and his family seem to be good enough.
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earthfire
I just thought this was funny when it popped into my head this morning. Funny because I should have thought of it long ago and I'm sure that I'm not the first to think this. The big point comes after my little spiel.
So, God tells Noah to build an ark because he has a lot of killing of the wicked to do and only Noah and his family seem to be good enough. If he can get other people on board great (was there room made for other people?). Anyway, Noah and his 3 sons build this megaship, they get all the animals on the ship (presumably even the ones that don't live on his continent and so on) then the rain starts to fall, the family gets on board and God finally lifts a finger to help and shuts the door. The Great Flood (First Armageddon) happens, the world is cleansed of the wicked, the waters recede, they get off the ark and all of the animals are released (but why don't some of those species of animals exist on that continent now?) They were vegetarians but now that there isn't any plant-life (except for the bush that the ram is stuck in and the tree that the dove lands on...) so now they're meat eaters but there's only two of each animal so how will they do that, especially with nothing to feed them? hmmm Time goes on, Noah plants a vineyard and loves to drink in excess.
SO my point is this, even if you can believe that Noah lived for 950 years as we calculate them today, it all happened in HIS lifetime. From being warned all the way to after the flood. But now we are expected to wait generation after generation (or is it just one big, continued generation now) a couple of Noah's lifetimes anyway. Why so long?
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Reason
by dissonance_resolved inso as someone newly awakened, my thoughts have turned to "why didn't i see this sooner?
how could i be so blind?
" part of it is that i never realized anyone may have left due to differences with the doctrine.
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earthfire
I would suggest fading too. No reason for a "blaze of glory" here. You never know who you may cause to question the WTBTS for themselves if you go about leaving in the most cool headed way.
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You are all invited to the Memorial Of Jesus Death this March 26th 2013/Invitation is included, just open.
by suavojr ingreetings to all jwn members and lurkers,.
i would like to extend all a warm-hearted invitation for our upcoming memorial this march 26th 2013, we will be having the lord's supper at sundown in a jehovah's witness kingdom hall near you.as you can see in this invitation, jesus died for all and that includes abraham, tyndale, pastor russell and many others.
maybe you can identify the remaining key people on the top left side of jesus.we will have a wonderful talk about how jesus gave his life for all humankind thus opening the doors for everlasting life.you can all go to our official website www.jw.org and find the nearest kh where you live, under the tab about us and then go to meetings.you and your family are all invited and it is free.
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earthfire
I want to know who the woman to Russel's right and the man below him are. Does anyone know?
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A double life
by raindrops ini am usually a lurker here.
i was disfellowshipped about 3 years ago.
my relationship with my family has never been the same.
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earthfire
I'm so sorry for your situation. I and many others here know all to well your dilemma. The problem with faking it is that you aren't being true to yourself or your immediate family. If you raise your daughter even partially with that belief system, she may grow up to be a witness. If you can't fake it for a long time then she may end up shunning you in the future if you stop going to the meetings. She'll be told that the holidays are bad but see you celebrate them, it'll be very confusing (she'd also end up unintentionally outing you to your family so a double life won't be easy once she can talk in sentences). Be careful with this one. Lots of love to you.