19-year-old girl arrested for killing 77-year-old woman in nagoya.
crime jan. 28, 2015 - 03:00pm jst .
nagoya .
>Smiddy
I read an active witness sister's blog which says...
"This is really a tragedy. But There is a reason why Jehovah allow this".
19-year-old girl arrested for killing 77-year-old woman in nagoya.
crime jan. 28, 2015 - 03:00pm jst .
nagoya .
>None of those articles said the victim is a JW
Several news reports showed local kingdom hall and tried to interview her witnesses friends. But not mention the name of the religion.
The murderer's tweeted "Jehovah visited me" in her past twitter.
19-year-old girl arrested for killing 77-year-old woman in nagoya.
crime jan. 28, 2015 - 03:00pm jst .
nagoya .
Yes, this young woman is typical psychopath.
and witnesses are more likely to be targeted by "stay at home" type psychopath.
In Japan, Witness activity hours per one baptism are highest in the world.
Over 30,000 hours has been spent for one baptism.
The victim said to witness friends, "the young woman are very nice", because she showed her interest in the Bible.
Sad story.
19-year-old girl arrested for killing 77-year-old woman in nagoya.
crime jan. 28, 2015 - 03:00pm jst .
nagoya .
CRIME JAN. 28, 2015 - 03:00PM JST
NAGOYA —
Police have arrested a 19-year-old girl on suspicion of killing a 77-year-old woman. The girl, who is a student at Nagoya University, was quoted by police as saying she wanted to kill someone and that anyone would do, NTV reported Wednesday.
According to police the victim, Tomoko Mori, became acquainted with the university student at a religious gathering. Mori was reported missing by her husband on Dec 7.
Police learned that Mori had been spending a lot of time with the girl and on Tuesday searched the girl’s apartment in Nagoya’s Showa Ward, where they found Mori’s body. The girl was at her parents’ home where she was arrested, police said.
Police said the girl told them she had wanted to kill someone ever since she was a child, NTV reported. She admitted to hitting Mori with a hatchet and then strangling her with a scarf in December, police said.
http://www.japancrush.com/2015/stories/nagoya-student-murders-old-woman-i-wanted-to-try-killing.html
The news has been widely reported in Japan. But no information from Watchtower Japan Branch.
the october kingdom ministry for the united states reported the 2014 memorial attendances for the us branch office that has subsequently been well discussed in a separate thread.
in that thread, a poster asserted that in some parts of europe the attendance had been higher than last year - but to date no source evidence has been provided.. so, have memorial attendances for other parts of the world been reported in any of the publications such as kingdom ministryyet?.
if so, could you direct me to the source(s).
October Kingdom Ministry 2014 Japan
It says "We are pleased that we had 307,071 attendance last memorial..."
The column never mentions last year reports or comparisons.
Here are the actual memorial attendances in Japan for a decade.
YEAR ATTENDANCE
2004 348,397
2005 338,330
2006 336,240
2007 331,172
2008 332,986
2009 326,983
2010 322,845
2011 323,211
2012 314,111
2013 310,215
2014 307,071
Its funny they should say "We are pleased". Yes, decline ratio is somewhat smaller than last year!
have they crossed some sort of legal line when they enforce shunning of ex members?
can they get sued for harassment?
what are the legal boundaries they have crossed by enforce shunning of ex member by threatening disfellowshipping of any member not shunning certain individuals?
Band on the Run, Thank you for reply. I mentioned the legal case in Japan. I did not say the case apply to geological scatterd religous community who shun specific person who live in remote area. But If the situation are same, I think the religioous belief is not execuse for exempt.
I know JW related legal case connection with shunning policy in US back to 1980s.
Basic principle are same in most of countries including european countries and Japan.
I am not sure if you understand what I want to say. Yes, The law supports the right of religious belief. But it is not always the absolute freedom of behavor.
If there are situation the group shunning are viewed as harassment or blackmail. A person could get damage reward in civil lawsuit. But I know such a situation is rare and I don't know exact Jehovah's Witnesses court case.
I think it is wrong to conclude that shunning behavor are always right when you read the
"Paul v. Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc." case.
"Shunning" in Jehovah's Witness community is not simple, it is not just "a person quit to associate with a person". It involves many things. There are processes , such as secret judicial meeting, introgation of private matters, threatening family members who socialize with ex-member, etc.
Whether harassment and threatening are involved in the process or not are uncertain. I belive it required specific condition if "shunning" itself has emotional damage.
And the matter is not only with civil lawsuit, but also with governmental recognition of religious or chality status.
Jehovah's witnesses official policy is shunning the person who willingly accept blood transfusion or who support political party. They said "a person disassociate themselves". But in reality, the shunning policy are religious sanction and controlling factors among JW members.
This may lead to Jehovahs Witness religion are illegal in some sense in some countries.
have they crossed some sort of legal line when they enforce shunning of ex members?
can they get sued for harassment?
what are the legal boundaries they have crossed by enforce shunning of ex member by threatening disfellowshipping of any member not shunning certain individuals?
Band on the Run, thank you for your post.
Japanese constitutions are almost same as US.
The lawsuits I mentioned was about the local small community
(not religious but geological).
The judge said that a declaration of communally excommunication itself viewd as
an invasion of personal rights.
And the judge also said the conduct of excommnucation by infruencial community members
on this case were "bullying and harassment".
In most case, Jehovah's Witness disfellowshipping practice may not be viewed as
harassment nor blackmail just because JW happened to be minority group.
If Jehovah's Witnesses understanding of the bible should be applied in Catholic Community.
Just imagine what is happening in Mexico, Italy, France, Spain, Poland or other Catholic
prevailing countries.
People excommunicate YOU because you are EX-CATHOLIC and this practice last forever(lifespan) as long as you are out of Catholic church.
And what happens if Pope declares that if you have fellowship with ex-catholic, you are goint to be excommunicated also.
So I think an excommunication may be viewed as a harassment or a emotional blackmail
depending on context.
have they crossed some sort of legal line when they enforce shunning of ex members?
can they get sued for harassment?
what are the legal boundaries they have crossed by enforce shunning of ex member by threatening disfellowshipping of any member not shunning certain individuals?
Japanese court gave a decision that community shunning was illegal.
This was a court decision without any religous contexts. But Judge said if the shunning was used as blackmail, it is illegal.
In United States, the community shunning is OK if its because of religious belief.
But if it is in school, is it OK??
Let's take an example for arguments, Most of students in a class room are Jehovah's Witnesses.
One day, one of witness students is disfellowshipped in local congregation.
Other witness students begin to shun him and geet him no more at school.
A teacher noticed this, but students said "Well, this is because of our religion. So teacher, you don't have a right to stop our custom!"
Do you think it's OK in this case?
I think you can not control what they believe, but what they behave must be regurated by secular rule.
have they crossed some sort of legal line when they enforce shunning of ex members?
can they get sued for harassment?
what are the legal boundaries they have crossed by enforce shunning of ex member by threatening disfellowshipping of any member not shunning certain individuals?
There is a difference between Banning religions and Loosing tax examption status.
I think there are possibility WT loosing regal status as religious corporation at least some countries for Shunning policy.
I came across a WT article which admited the shunning practice was to play a role of blackmail
to prompt family member to back to a religion. Yes, WT admits they use blackmails.
Japan for example, religious corporation sould not be contrary to the public interest to
gain tax examption status.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/i6wdgd97za4cgm4/may-12_2014_branch_letter_to_elders_donations.pdf.
Nice to read an actual copy of BOE letter,
When I heard about second letter, I supporsed that that letter sent to ALL congregation worldwide.
Now, I understand this was only for U.S. Branch territory.
Perhaps, US congregations elders made phone calls to the branch a lot as reaction to the first letter.
Japanese branch sent a first letter only and preceed to the final resoluton.
I dont know why this letter is only for USA.
