I'll be checking flights. This is awesome, Thanks TERRY!
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IMPROMPTU APOSTAFEST in DFW area this Sunday Feb 24 1pm
by Terry insorry for the late notice.. this is an informal get together.
barbecue and beverages guaranteed.
all else you bring yourself.. .
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How to tell family why you are no longer attending meetings?
by El_Guapo inso it has been over a month, maybe closer to two that i haven't attended a meeting.
my stress level has gone way down, and my life is pretty good right now.
well as you know, there are tons of nosy witnessess.
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oh, and now matter what, try to be as understanding as Jefe...
Jefe : I have put many beautiful pinatas in the storeroom, each of them filled with little suprises.
El Guapo : Many pinatas?
Jefe : Oh yes, many!
El Guapo : Would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?
Jefe : A what?
El Guapo : A *plethora*.
Jefe : Oh yes, you have a plethora.
El Guapo : Jefe, what is a plethora?
Jefe : Why, El Guapo?
El Guapo : Well, you told me I have a plethora. And I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is. I would not like to think that a person would tell someone he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has *no idea* what it means to have a plethora.
Jefe : Forgive me, El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education. But could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me? -
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How to tell family why you are no longer attending meetings?
by El_Guapo inso it has been over a month, maybe closer to two that i haven't attended a meeting.
my stress level has gone way down, and my life is pretty good right now.
well as you know, there are tons of nosy witnessess.
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Fed-up
It's only been a month? let the dust settle a little.
When you choose to talk to her, don't lie. Be as honest as you can be with out lying. It's a fine line, of course.
My bet, she already knows the answer. She has known you for a very long time.
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Who Is The Biggest Control Freak On The Governing Body, Anthony Morris III, Gets My Vote
by frankiespeakin indue to lack of any intimacy with these guys it is hard to say for sure, but listening to the talks on the internet i think anthony morris is the biggest with gerrit losch second runner-up.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xml-u6-kkj8.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7drwti-h4.
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Frankiespeakin:"If the shoe fit you "have" to wear it" so perhaps he gives little attention to how the shoe looks of if it is in style but is mainly interested in makeing shoes that fit, and so wear it, is his advice, black and white thinking for sure with no middle ground or allowance for looks or functionality ."
Awesome.
I didn't even bother watching the video. I figured if 2+2=5 is that repulsed by him i'd refrain (2+2=5, if you cannot express it in words, try vomiting. Better out than in...hahaha)
they are so full of themselves. as the first and last voice on everything they think the only options is to do what they say..."black and white thinking" is a matter of extremes. find a little balance.
I can, and often do, refuse to wear shoes.
In reply to the thread subject:
H ere is an illustration Lett used in our congregation when he was our Circuit overseer, 'The Kingdom Hall needs painting. The elders decide that, for as many as possible to participate, only 1" paintbrushes will be used. Now you and I both know that there are far more effective ways to involve everyone AND get the KH painted. Do we grumble and complain and gossip, spreading our opinion? Or do we go along with the decision the elders made? Remember, Jehovah doesn't care how the KH gets painted, but he does care about how you support the elders..." Ok, this is the gist of it. he went on and on...
All i can say is, back then I swallowed it whole. I now find that illustration both freaky AND controlling.
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New Light needs batteries
by Roberta804 inwell i think the borg crossed the line with many of the r&f.
met a young woman at a class i take come to find out she and her husband are recent ex-jws.
they were both born-ins and they felt the printing company is taking too many liberties and that many in the khs are not talking about it... just leaving.
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Double standards and control like they require reminds me of another group...
Pharisees, they "They bind up heavy loads and put them upon the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger. All the works they do they do to be viewed by men; for they broaden the [scripture-containing] cases that they wear as safeguards, and enlarge the fringes [of their garments] Matthew chapter 23, verses 4 and 5
Give me a break. The John and Jane Publisher are told to look at the elders as examples. You can't serve as an elder while allowing your child to go to school? Then Faithful John and Jane won't. Even better though is how UBER Faithful John and Jane will take this to the next level, saying, "if higher education is a waste of time and dangerous, and Armageddon is expected in the next 15 mins, Why should Little Johnney have to deal with school at all? He could go in the ministry every day and have Bible studies and Read Awake (equivalent to a college education anyway). Thats education for REAL LIFE, a life in paradise!"
It's getting so stupid. However, 20 years from now, when the kid is a janitor (no offense to janitors) they will say it was "your personal choice not to go to college..."
EYES WIDE SHUT!
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New Light needs batteries
by Roberta804 inwell i think the borg crossed the line with many of the r&f.
met a young woman at a class i take come to find out she and her husband are recent ex-jws.
they were both born-ins and they felt the printing company is taking too many liberties and that many in the khs are not talking about it... just leaving.
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I agree completely.
Was she specific about the liberties being taken? did she tell you of others she knew who had just left?
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Daniel was confused.
by transhuman68 ini did some research after reading this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/246165/1/using-microsoft-excel-to-disprove-watchtower-theology-authority.
and realized there have been some flip-flops in the watchtower's interpretation of daniel's prophecy.
here is the interpretation from 'pay attention to daniel's prophecy' (1999) pg.301:.
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Ding: "It reminds me of the claim in The Finished Mystery (1918 WT book) that a particular number in Revelation represented the distance from Scranton, Pennsylvania to WT headquarters in New York by way of the Hoboken ferry..."
Awesome. It makes you wonder just how dim "new light" really is. The best part, even when it's that stupid and obviously flawed true believers MUST believe, or be punished. Now, would the distance travelled on the ferry need a nautical conversion?
In the Land of the Blind the One Eyed man is King... OPEN YOUR EYES.
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WT wisdom - Same sex attraction does not mean you are gay
by irondork ingiven the confusion faced by gay youth in trying to navigate through a larger, hetero culture, the last thing these kids need is for a religious "authority" to come along and tell them they don't really exist.
that is exactly what the wt has done with this article at jw.org:.
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/pressure-to-be-gay/.
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@IRONDORK: Hey. This is one of the most insightful things I've ever read about "SSA" or whatever the hell they call it now.
"When you tell someone, "You are not allowed to love", the consequences of that message go far deeper than just creating an empty bed. It poisens every aspect of a person's ability to function as a human being."
Thank you.
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"Holy Corporation Worship!! Batman" said Robyn about the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses
by frankiespeakin inyes i think we can rightfully say that the governing body will hold the record for this title.
the corporation is our mother, our father, our provider and divider of holy spirit, and no one can come to god except through the corporation,, with the wheel inside the wheels full of eyes, and jehovah hovering over head with cherubs at the 4 corners.. yes the governing body are the high rollers of the organization/corporation that you can offer worshipful thanks and obedience to, because they as they so often have proven from many scriptures with reason defying logic that they are the chosen one's of god almighty to lead his people into the promised land flowing with friendly lions and tigers just waiting for you to pet them while downing a nice pomegranate smoothy.. all hail jehovah's visible corporation/ark of the covenant!
"holy corporation worship batman!!".
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hahahaha! awesome, psychoanalyzing the GB based on how they were mothered. This needs to be it's own thread!
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Who is the faithful and discreet slave? Is a RHETORICAL question
by villagegirl inwhat brought me out of the wt , was one day it dawned on me, mathew 25:35,36 ..i was hungry and you gave me food;i was thirsty and you gave me drink;i was a stranger and you took me in, i was naked and you clothes me,i was sick and you visited me, i was in prison and you came to me.
i was being told this was some "symbolic action" we were supposed to take towards the wt version of the faithful and discreet slave.
and something inside me just said, "no it isn't" its real.
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Fed-up
SHE DIDN'T SAY "NO" and is amused!
Dudes, back me up here, guys have done far crazier things than driving to Canada for dinner on far less than a not "no" and amusement...
Logistics aside, one of these day's we need to share a meal and a chat. You're smart and funny, that alone is worth the trip!