i was thinking about using a tactic of asking questions revolving around "noahs flood" to try to start my wife doing some serious thinking.
unlike doctrine that cannot often be proven one way or another, this issue can be proven beyond the slightest doubt that it is impossible.. i was thinking about asking a question something like this "i was reading about coral reefs today, and they sure are amazing!
what amazed me the most is how long it takes for them to build the reef, and how long they live!
Hey Adamah,
I'm not an expert in this field, but I have been doing a lot of reading recently to conduct English language conversation lessons with students who have some expertise in this area (thus I had to educate myself - enjoyed reading about Freud and Jung) but is seems like instead of using the term as you did (subconcious) most professionals prefer the term unconcious. Any thoughts on the matter?
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html.
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metatron.
You need to spend more time at 'Faux' news instead of reading all this independent stuff to get the truth. Don't worry. Everything is fine.
attended the meeting tonight, filled in for a sick person, nailed the reading..got asked where i was and one elder was pretty condescending...sarcastically responded with "oh really?!?!
you were sick?!?!
you had germs?!?!
Just don't go anymore. I haven't been there for several months. At first, on Sundays I got the "aren't you going to the meeting today?" Then it morphed into, are you going (if by chance I had happened to shave in the last few days and wasn't already out in the yard working). She never asks about service meeting night. Just Sundays occasionally now.
I told her it is best for her because if I go I might stand up and shout during the WT 'discussion' : hey! this is all bullshit! For five seconds, allow yourselves to think! Don't be afraid...
i was thinking about using a tactic of asking questions revolving around "noahs flood" to try to start my wife doing some serious thinking.
unlike doctrine that cannot often be proven one way or another, this issue can be proven beyond the slightest doubt that it is impossible.. i was thinking about asking a question something like this "i was reading about coral reefs today, and they sure are amazing!
what amazed me the most is how long it takes for them to build the reef, and how long they live!
It is certainly worth a try, but don't expect much. I had to show my wife from a WT that the JW's teach that there was a global flood in 2370BC(E). She didn't believe it (that they would print such nonsense). I agreed it was nonsense and then explained how such nonsense would be an instant turn-off to anyone who showed even the slightest interest in discussing the bible with her. Once they heard that, they wouldn't hear anything else she was talking about. It was always extremely embarrasing to me.
we all know that wts likes to distance itself from the young earth creationists, who believe in the literal 6-day creation.. so are we supposed to be something fundamentally different from the yecs?
not so much.... i did some research some time ago about what the society believes abouth the length of the creative days.
this is what i found:.
I could never figure out why they insisted that all the creative days had to be equal in length. Much of the WT historical view of the world is still stuck somehere in the thinking of the late 18th century despite their claims to being a progressive organization.
i'm from jamaica, montego bay to be exact.
if there are other jamaicans here, feel free to let me know.. with that said, it was announced at our last meeting (a letter was read) that the branch office (bethel) in kingston would be closing, and affairs would soon be directed from us hq.
now the branch office here is a large compound built on acres of prime real estate.
I feel really bad for these people getting kicked to the curb (hate the ones doing the kicking). It is hard enough for those having worked and competed in this 'system' for many years to continue to put food on the table. Even with a decent education. Now imagine having no education (talking some kind of degree) or real-world work experience and suddenly finding yourself thrust out into the cold. It seems their only hope is to try and find work thru their network of 'brothers'. Hopefully they didn't annoy too many in their previous existence as an elite bethelite.
Wouldn't it have been nice if the new compund they are building in NY was actually a retirement-care home for all those who had honestly devoted their lives to kingdom service! Or pehaps, it could also have included an educational facility (non-theocratic) to help retrain those who suddenly find themselves with no marketable skills , simply because they got taken in by the 'end is near' hokum. I know, what am I thinking...
2 jehovah will use the kingdom to unify his family in heav- en and on earth.
that divine purpose will be realized.
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I thought the same thing when I first saw that. I think they just like to mix it up a bit. I don't think it would take much searching in WT lib to find something opposite and more along the lines of what you and I remember. But I am 'evidently' an appostate, so don't trust me. Better to do some research in pre-approved WT sources. See MS book for the list.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23947820.
it is suggesting that the accepted dates for the egyptian timelines need to change.
does anyone have a more informed and scholarly view on this?.
@Comatose: Of course you know via your JW education that there were no Egyptians before the flood and for that matter not until after that unfortunate incident at the tower of Babel. Perhaps some of the demon-influenced, pre-flood inhabitants of the land built the original pyramids and then after the TOB, the people who now spoke what we call the Egyptian language attempted to mimic earlier creations they found that survived the flood. That might explain why later pyramids were smaller and inferior to the older examples.
Also, your sarcastic comments would infer that somehow the purpose behind the flood failed in that within 100 years people were again doing exactly what they were not supposed to be doing. ROTFLOL... I have no idea how the writers of this stuff (in the WT and Awake) could actually write this stuff without killing themselves for the level of dishonesty and ignorance that they propagate.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23947820.
it is suggesting that the accepted dates for the egyptian timelines need to change.
does anyone have a more informed and scholarly view on this?.
Thanks for the link. One of my favorite topics. It seems like they are not changing when the civilization as a unified state began (I always read around 3000BC) but how quickly it happened as compared to the Mesopotamian region. Am I reading that correctly?
many friends i've spoken with are becoming discouraged.
because of this it's becoming tempting to privately share my views with friends, but i know this is still too dangerous.
most witnesses in my circle are intelligent free thinkers.
I agree with you Steve2. Here in Poland they are still very positive but it has to do mainly with growth in foreign language field.
