Crazyguy - you are right about the swearing. And it is something I really need to work on. It is not helpful. My wife thinks I've become demon-possessed. I need to push through past the anger stage ASAP.
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Attention Lurkers, newbies and fence sitters and shunned ones!!!!
by Crazyguy inits time to be blunt, the jw religions denies their members the messiah.
do your research people, go to your cd library and type the word "mediator" in brackets or parentheses, and then hit search button.
after reading all you can you'll see that according to them, jesus only mediates for the 144k.
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What Is The Most Absurd JW Belief or View?
by minimus inthere are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..
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There was a global flood (that nobody seemed to notice) in 2370 BCE.
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Notes from English speaking DC in Poland
by FadeToBlack ini managed to weasel out of friday, so no comments on the days program.
i'm sure it was marvellous.
i made it thru saturday's program in a fairly sociable mood, saying hello to a few folks we hadn't seen in years.
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I agree Billy, but I doubt that would have gone over well. It would have been funny to watch the reaction of the audience. Even if he said that, he probably would have found a way to plug jw.org. We can only hope that one-day, some brave dude will go off-reservation and say that. I don't think it is entirely impossible.
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New Light? Or moving the Goalposts?
by braincleaned inthe wts and it's self appointed gb is quite ridiculous, and have no shame.. .
the truth is the truth.
period.
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I think as Ouibelette (sorry about spelling) mentioned recently, their comparison about Apollo's progressive understanding of the truth and the way it works in WT land fell short. This is a big issue with me. I have tried to explain this several times to my wife. The best example I could come up with about what progressive understanding means is math.
In 9th grade, you learned Algebra. In 10th, geometry. What we learned about geometry did not mean we had to forget everything we learned about Algebra.(OK you might forget it, but it is still valid, true, and useful). With prior Wt teachings, not so much.
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The Pit of Despair, or going to the DC
by dissonance_resolved inso our dc is coming up and my level of anxiety and depression is through the roof.
i've been fading and have noticed that when i don't go the meetings, i'm happy, calm and positive, but when i do go, it takes at least a week to recover.
so the prospect of three straight days has me in an absolute panic.
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@dissonance_resolved: glad to hear you survived. I made it thru Saturday, but today was tough for me. One day is all I can handle. I really just wanted to stand up and shout: This is nonsense. I've had enough. And then leave.
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Hypothetical question about level/depth of talks at DC this year?
by FadeToBlack infor those of you who had to go this year and have been in for a while, how do you think someone from the 40's or even the 70's would react if they had to sit thru the 2013 dc?
for me, it was like 'land of the stupid'.
everything seemed to be presented at about a 4th grade level (my apologies in advance to 4th graders who are more advanced than adult jw's).
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For those of you who had to go this year and have been in for a while, how do you think someone from the 40's or even the 70's would react if they had to sit thru the 2013 DC? For me, it was like 'Land of the Stupid'. Everything seemed to be presented at about a 4th grade level (my apologies in advance to 4th graders who are more advanced than adult JW's). I'm not sayin the stuff back then made any more sense, but at least they seemed to address people at a 10th grade level back then.
The symposium talks were the worst. 10 minutes, ask a question 3 bullet points with a demo. Review. Perhaps it just seemed worse to me because the Polish brothers and sisters were applauding wildly for everything, even a 20 second demo. To make matters worse, they just all seemed so earnest. I felt like we were in parallel universes.
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Notes from English speaking DC in Poland
by FadeToBlack ini managed to weasel out of friday, so no comments on the days program.
i'm sure it was marvellous.
i made it thru saturday's program in a fairly sociable mood, saying hello to a few folks we hadn't seen in years.
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@prologos: it was at English speaking DC. Russian DC in Warsaw had 6 baptized. They had about 520 in attendance, we had 480-490 peak. Polish DC in Warsaw will have about 30k attending this year. I will try to get # baptized next weekend.
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Notes from English speaking DC in Poland
by FadeToBlack ini managed to weasel out of friday, so no comments on the days program.
i'm sure it was marvellous.
i made it thru saturday's program in a fairly sociable mood, saying hello to a few folks we hadn't seen in years.
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@problemaddict: they made a big point about this during the demos. If you open with - Do you think the world is getting better or worse? And the person replies with the thought that they see a lot of progress in the world, rather than trying to argue that, just move on to the Kingdom Message like Jesus did when talkng to the Samaritan woman at the well. Don't worry about who talks with who - that is just a distraction.
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Notes from English speaking DC in Poland
by FadeToBlack ini managed to weasel out of friday, so no comments on the days program.
i'm sure it was marvellous.
i made it thru saturday's program in a fairly sociable mood, saying hello to a few folks we hadn't seen in years.
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I managed to weasel out of Friday, so no comments on the days program. I'm sure it was marvellous. I made it thru Saturday's program in a fairly sociable mood, saying hello to a few folks we hadn't seen in years. Started dropping comments to the wife during the parts. First one was during demo of WT comments. The brother said: aren't we all encouraged by the upbuilding comments made during the WT study. I said under my breath: not really. That got me a poke in the ribs. On Sunday during Viv Moritz's final talk he actually admitted that JW's had made mistakes in the past. I was floored, but he fixed that with the following comment that despite this, nobody had ever been harmed by it. I said fairly loudly: NOT true.
I was hoping the wife would follow up with a few questions on the way home, but nothing. She was in full bobble-head mode at the DC.
Extra. We had no baptismal candidates. They gave the talk anyway but cut it short to include an interview with Viv and his wife. She turned up this gem: after I started pioneering with Viv we were so busy in our assignments that I didn't have time to think about anything. I knew what she meant but a classic freudian slip.
Overall, it was so shallow and superficial - about at the level of the new tracts. Ask question, ignore response of householder.
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Viv Moritz returning to Australia
by FadeToBlack injust heard it today from his own mouth at english speaking dc in poland.
in concluding talk, he mentioned that he had been here for 2 years (doing what, i don't know) and that he would soon be in the ukraine for 6 months before returning home.
we were so blessed (not) with his presence..
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Just heard it today from his own mouth at English speaking DC in Poland. In concluding talk, he mentioned that he had been here for 2 years (doing what, I don't know) and that he would soon be in the Ukraine for 6 months before returning home. We were so blessed (not) with his presence.