'Pat,
Darn, I can't play with you right now Tag, you're it....
Dana
after observing the two sides arguing about the war with iraq, i have come to see 2 kinds of groups, not just the argument from conservatives and liberals, but from those who think with either from their intellectual or emotional standpoints...... from the emotional standpoints who oppose the war, which i would call the "oprah thinkers", these are the group of people who think with their emotional part of the brain rather than the intellectual part of the brain.
the oprah thinkers likes to cry alot and dab their eyes with a hankerchef.
they get outraged when a human being regardless of their background (good or evil) gets killed for whatever reason it may be.. then there are those who support the war, which i would call the "spock thinkers", who think from the intellectual part of the brain rather than from the emotional part of the brain.
'Pat,
Darn, I can't play with you right now Tag, you're it....
Dana
after observing the two sides arguing about the war with iraq, i have come to see 2 kinds of groups, not just the argument from conservatives and liberals, but from those who think with either from their intellectual or emotional standpoints...... from the emotional standpoints who oppose the war, which i would call the "oprah thinkers", these are the group of people who think with their emotional part of the brain rather than the intellectual part of the brain.
the oprah thinkers likes to cry alot and dab their eyes with a hankerchef.
they get outraged when a human being regardless of their background (good or evil) gets killed for whatever reason it may be.. then there are those who support the war, which i would call the "spock thinkers", who think from the intellectual part of the brain rather than from the emotional part of the brain.
Wow Yizu,
Your understanding and mastery of the human psyche and your simplistic categorization of which groups all people fall into is leaving me quite speechless.
Dana
i am listening (interpret to mean - hurting my ears and senses) to the canadian juno awards.
i know i am considered old by many on the board here but this stuff is just awful - off key - no recognizable tune - no intelligible words.
canada has some awesome talent.
Brad,
Oh, come on, are we supposed to hate all Canadian entertainers now?
If you want to find an excuse to hate something
WTF???? I really hope that you did not mean this as harshly as it came across. Nowhere did LadyLee suggest first of all, that everyone should agree with her nor that all Canadian entertainers lack talent. In fact, if you go back and read her post, you will notice that she wrote the following:
Canada has some awesome talent
Where on earth did you get "hate all Canadian entertainers" in that?? She simply expressed her opinion of a particular awards show, nothing more, nothing less. I notice that you seem to be new to the board so I think if you go back and read some of LadyLee's posts, you'll see that hatred isn't a part of who she is.
(((((LadyLee))))) been missing ya! Thank you for your post on the Celestine Prophecy thread; as always, I'm touched by your warm heart and generosity of spirit. I apologize for not responding yet, things have been rather busy, but I hope to get to it today.
Dana (of the "doesn't think LadyLee is an old fogey" class)
nope, not to to the board but to stuff i've needed to let go!
anyone who has dealt with depression and the internal effects of sustained negative emotions will understand this, i think.
its been a rough year, for many reasons, and i apologize to those whom ive not had the energy and emotional wherewithal to support.
Expatbrit, bringing this to the top so that Dana can't wriggle out of a book summary.
Hey Expat,
Wriggling, hey? Hmmm...not a very flattering mental pic, thank you VERY much. But then, this is from a guy who talks to fairies in his garden If you must know, I've had company all weekend, wonderful company, the most fantastic company ever, the most beautiful, sweet, kind, funny person (help! I'm being held hostage and forced to write this tripe! ). Honestly, I've not had the chance to type anything of substance up for ya, but I haven't forgotten about it. I don't think the book will appeal to you and I'll tell ya why when I do the summary, k?? Now, an assignment for YOU, my dear Exsplat, how 'bout a concise, understandable explanation of a materialist?? I'm thinking that is someone who only believes in what is scientifically measurable and tangible, like matter...am I close? And if so, do I win a ride on the pink unicorn????? Heheheh
Dana (hoping she can get Ven to sleep in tomorrow and allow me time to actually finish a post and/or email)
nope, not to to the board but to stuff i've needed to let go!
anyone who has dealt with depression and the internal effects of sustained negative emotions will understand this, i think.
its been a rough year, for many reasons, and i apologize to those whom ive not had the energy and emotional wherewithal to support.
Sadie,
I have tried some of the insights and I do feel more in touch with things, you know? Like yesterday, I saw a friend in passing that I have been meaning to call for sometime. I felt all morning like I should call her, but I had a ton of housework to do...so, I put it out of my mind. The feeling nagged at me all day, and then last night she called. Weird, huh? I wasn't home, so I don't know why she called but I'll be returning her call in a little bit. It'll be interesting to see what she has to say
Yep, I know what you mean about feeling more in touch. And what a cool coincidence! Now you've got ME curious about what she has to say
Have you guys been applying the insights? How seriously do you take this book? What does Redfield base these insights on?
I've been sort of applying them...mostly I'm just trying to remain aware and figure out how much of it I can accept, what makes sense to me, what works for me, etc. I don't take it seriously in the sense that I'm now a 'follower' LOL coz following is something I don't ever want to do again, but I take it seriously in that I think the insights offer a different perspective into human interaction, one that I find fascinating to explore. As for what Redfield based it on, I've no clue but perhaps others here will.
I've had that feeling of expectation as well and feel pretty cool when I'm aware of coincidences as they are happening especially. I do think that we often can learn from each other and one of the points of the book is that we need to slow down a bit in our daily interactions to take advantage of that learning process. As for the 8th insight (don't feel bad, btw...I have to keep going back to the book and looking them up to keep them straight) it's mainly regarding our addictions to other people...codependency, really. What I got from it was that it's common for us to use other people to fulfill our unmet needs (framework of the book: energy) and therefore we hinder our own growth and cut ourselves off from learning how to be complete in ourselves.
Please understand I am a neophyte with regards to much of this and am not sure how much I'm willing to accept as far as what the book proposes; some of it seems farfetched to me too but otoh I'm content to take what I can use and leave the rest. I can always revisit it later if I choose.
Thanks again for your post; I'm really amazed at the number of responses this thread has gotten and the number of people who are willing to approach things with open minds.
Expat,
Hey, how are ya??
Uh oh..I feel an invisible pink unicorn coming on......
Eh...huh??!
Dana
Ohhhhhhh, I just read the other responses to your post and now I get it. Soooo...that was humor, then?
nope, not to to the board but to stuff i've needed to let go!
anyone who has dealt with depression and the internal effects of sustained negative emotions will understand this, i think.
its been a rough year, for many reasons, and i apologize to those whom ive not had the energy and emotional wherewithal to support.
Hey Derek
How ya been? That was an interesting link, thanks. I think the thing to keep in mind is that this book is a work of fiction; also, I've not discarded my skeptic's cap quite yet However, many of the thoughts and ways of relating made sense to me, and one thing that I personally am endeavoring to do is not close my mind to possibilities that might exist, simply because modern science doesn't currently support them. Not all things are measurable scientifically at this time; I don't think that is reason to completely discard them. What do you think?
Dana
ok, folks, put this one in your diary if you please!.
sunday.
july 13.. just like the shindig we held last year, this one will also be held in my back garden at our home in weston super mare, england.
Eman,
kissed and made up with Simon
Now, THAT'S something I would pay to see! Got pics???
I would dearly love to make it over for your barbie, I just can't quite figure out how to fit myself in Joy's and Jst2's luggage (assuming they'll make it over again this year). I had decided there was no way I could make the trip this year, but then again, where there's a will there's a way, eh? So...I guess time will tell. It is something I've got stewing around in the back of my mind so I reckon I'll just have to see what the future has in store for me.
Btw...I am REALLY looking forward to meeting you and Her Ladyship later this month at the Freedom Fest
Dana
nope, not to to the board but to stuff i've needed to let go!
anyone who has dealt with depression and the internal effects of sustained negative emotions will understand this, i think.
its been a rough year, for many reasons, and i apologize to those whom ive not had the energy and emotional wherewithal to support.
Sadie ,
Thank you so much for your post! I could sooooo relate to some of the things that you wrote. I'm finding it a challenge to integrate all of the insights, too. You said:
The only thing I can see that I might do now, is attempt to gain attention from others through sympathy. My life still sucks just as much as it did when I was a kid…and it does appear to be a pattern with me, that I continually put myself into difficult, and sometimes impossible situations and relationships and then seek out comfort from others by sharing with them my story(ies
Wow, that's a lot of work already that you are able to be that self-aware and self-knowing. Please remember though that it's easy to be much harder on ourselves than is sometimes warranted...there's nothing wrong with garnering support from trusted friends and having our feelings and experiences validated by others' reactions. I think the hard thing about all of that is finding the balance (gawd, I hate the word balance! Coz it's so difficult to find) between our very real and natural need for validation/support and the 'poor me' syndrome. I spent years locked into that behavior (control drama) and then years battling it and putting it behind me. I find tho that I can revisit it, so I have to also be very aware of my motivations. As two wise friends of mine have recently told me, try to take baby steps I'd love to hear more about your progress thru the insights and how you interpret them.
((((((Robyn)))))
I have to tell you....I read your post yesterday afternoon and felt a strong urge to reread the 8th insight...and darnit all if I wasn't gobsmacked! (again LOL). Talk about coincidences..*sigh*. Thanks for that post, I needed to review that insight and quite honestly it may be the one that will be hardest for me to develop on a personal level. Btw...I REALLY REALLY need to watch the Monty Python videos again!!!
Love,
Dana
here are just some of the people who touched my life in the chat room way back when,and didn't know they did because i never said so back then.
i pray that you all are ok and wish you all well.. # 1 plh!
i love ya girl!
Awwwwwwww (((((((((((Gwen))))))))) you sweetie, you! Sometimes, I think about the early days here and how great it was, how we seemed to have a sense of community and the friends I made (and one or two enemies, sadly, but that's my own darn fault). It's great to reminisce about the old days, hey? You touched me, too, yaknow Remember chat when you (we'd make corny jokes about your nic: Oh, somebody's here, don't know who but somebody is! *groan*) and Harmony (who never failed to pass out various chemicals to happify the room), Tracy (who still has her cyber paddle), Seeker (who never turned down a tummy rub), Venice (who would type "lalalala" I'm covering my eyes! heheheh), Wasasister (what ever happened to our movie Wasa?? what was it called? Toy Story something heheheh ), Expatbrit (back when he was furry and had really long arms), Jan (our very own Jesus look-alike), Tina (hi doll!), me, and who knows who else would gather in there?? Gee, the spankings usually heated things up! LOL I miss those days, I really do.
Ahhh, thanks for the trip down memory lane, hope all is going well with you these days...gotta get back to my schoolwork now tho
Dana
nope, not to to the board but to stuff i've needed to let go!
anyone who has dealt with depression and the internal effects of sustained negative emotions will understand this, i think.
its been a rough year, for many reasons, and i apologize to those whom ive not had the energy and emotional wherewithal to support.
Hey (((((Latte)))))
Good to see ya! (er, *read* ya) Yeah, reading helps immensely and this book was really an eye-opener, not that I subscribe to everything in it, but there was certainly a lot of food for thought. BTW...I personally think that Succulent Wild Women by Sark should be part of EVERY woman's library
I'll tell the kids you send your love, they'll be very pleased. Please give ours to your family as well.
Dana