no doubt one of the most ask questions ever.
no matter what age you are (in my case fairly young), you've seen gilligan's island, and heard the inevitable argument (especially amoung men), who do you prefer better: ginger or mary anne.. well, i decided to bring the debate here to jw.com, see if there's an (ex) jw consensus on the issue.. my personal favourite is mary anne, by the way.
they were both very attractive, but mary anne's personalty was more down to earth (or naive) to me, and i find that more desirable.
Yeah...how big is this island?? Surely, large enough for TWO orgies, perhaps at opposite ends? You're just afraid that Xena would want to come to MY orgy, I know
Your everlovin' li'l sis,
Dana
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end...
Closing Time, Semisonic
having read some of the posts in the military tribunal thread make me wonder about the perspective of the american population in general.
it seems to be more egocentric then ever.
the understandable outrage and indignation caused by the despicable and horrible acts on 9/11 seem to have caused little or no global perspective.
Ah sh*t, I hate to openly expose my ignorance here but what the hell...
Norm, I agree that we most likely will face more terrorist attacks in the future and I appreciate your concern for Americans. But isn't this what has been happening for years in many other parts of the world? Perhaps we are just now starting to catch up and no, I don't think that's a good thing but reality is often painful.
You stated that you wish those with power would act...what specifically do you think needs to be done? How should America have reacted differently to these attacks? I really would like to hear your thoughts on the matter. I certainly don't have a clue.
Dana
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end...
Closing Time, Semisonic
no doubt one of the most ask questions ever.
no matter what age you are (in my case fairly young), you've seen gilligan's island, and heard the inevitable argument (especially amoung men), who do you prefer better: ginger or mary anne.. well, i decided to bring the debate here to jw.com, see if there's an (ex) jw consensus on the issue.. my personal favourite is mary anne, by the way.
they were both very attractive, but mary anne's personalty was more down to earth (or naive) to me, and i find that more desirable.
ALRIGHT ALREADY!
I'm gettin tired of being left out of all the good island adventures! How come I don't get to be on there with Xena, Harmony, Ginny, Think et all????!!!
Sheesh
Dana
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end...
Closing Time, Semisonic
no doubt one of the most ask questions ever.
no matter what age you are (in my case fairly young), you've seen gilligan's island, and heard the inevitable argument (especially amoung men), who do you prefer better: ginger or mary anne.. well, i decided to bring the debate here to jw.com, see if there's an (ex) jw consensus on the issue.. my personal favourite is mary anne, by the way.
they were both very attractive, but mary anne's personalty was more down to earth (or naive) to me, and i find that more desirable.
Mary Anne hands down
Dana
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end...
Closing Time, Semisonic
the friends we make and the good times we create and share together.. hugs.
joel
....just a chair of bowlies (Mary Englebriet)
Dana
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Closing Time, Semisonic
i just can't believe that i underwent major surgery twice and signed papers that i would not take blood.
i shudder to think what would have happened had my only child faced such a situation.
i'm amazed at my past stupidity.. i knew a young sister who lost her new husband when he needed blood after a car accident.
I, too, cannot believe that I once followed such a stupid rule. I knew a sister who died from complications with her pregnancy and left 3 children and a husband behind. I almost lost my sister, Think41self, after the birth of her second child. She began bleeding badly and the doctors wanted to give her blood; her elder husband, my JW mom and assorted other JW family members were so thrilled with her refusal to accept it. It was touch and go for a week or so but she pulled thru, thank whatever divine power you believe in. I can't bear to think how I would feel now if she had been one of the casualties of that damned policy.
Dana
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end...
Closing Time, Semisonic
http://www.echonyc.com/~onissues/f95guilt.html.
got this in my mail today; i thought it was fascinating.
it's long but well worth reading.
Hey ((((((((MD))))))))),
Good article, thanks for posting it.
For religious Christian survivors, such counsel adds horrible complications to the healing process. But even in its secular form, the pressure to forgive abusers is a powerful tool of social control, one that continues to blame the victim
Hope you're doing well. Love to you and all the Dark family
Dana
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Closing Time, Semisonic
i posted in another thread that i felt like maybe i was at last turning a corner.
i sure hope so anyway.
i'm getting too old to keep spending my days in a whirl of worry and doubt.. i've started pretending that my brain has a switch which one way says obsess and the other way says live.
Hey (((joel))),
You know, it's funny. I rarely comment on your threads and yet, so often, you speak my truths. Maybe that's why I don't say anything. Learning how to live as an adult is a hell of a journey. Sometimes, it makes me angry, sometimes depressed and sad, sometimes confused, feeling like I'm groping in the dark (and not in a fun way!). But for all the times that I bruise my shins and my heart on life's corners, I still wouldn't trade this journey for anything. Not having all the answers is quite frightening at times but if the option is to live like a fundy, no thanks! I'll take the hard knocks and the broken hearts because at least I'm experiencing life, instead of passively watching it pass me by.
Joel, you're a good man. The world is tougher on those with sensitive and compassionate hearts but don't you think the trade off is worth it?
(((Kevin))), good to see you here. I do think about you often although I don't say much. As Andi said, many of us are here to listen.
Dana
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end...
Closing Time, Semisonic
back in the dark ages did you used to come into message boards like this one, or h20 and try to defend the watchtower society?
i did and things didn't work out so well.
actually they worked out fine, i switched teams.
Hey LB,
Good thread, I've enjoyed reading the responses. And I'd like to welcome XJW to the board.
When I left the borg about 4 years ago, I didn't even know about sites like this. I wish that I had as it would have meant a great deal in terms of support. I don't think that it would have made a difference in my leaving altho it might have helped me feel better about the decision. It's amazing to me, tho, that so many of us have shared similar experiences and feelings and I think that it's wonderful we have a place to come and interact with one another (thanks Simon and Angharad ). As for now, it just reinforces my belief that I made the right decision. I didn't leave over doctrinal issues; I left because of the shitty treatment I and my kids received from the 'loving' body of elders but I've learned so much about the borg now that I could never go back! I'm free, I'm free!! And it's a great feeling.
Dana
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end...
Closing Time, Semisonic
born in toronto, canada in 1952, i lived with my parents and three younger brothers until i was ten years old.
there was a lot of violence in our home.
my father was an abusive, rageful man who took out all his frustrations on his family.
Lady Lee,
Welcome and thank you for sharing your story. I can really relate to some of what you went through...I too am an adult survivor of incest; I also divorced and left the org; now I am attending university (first in my family) and working on a Bachelor's in Social Work; and, finally, I'm raising my two children on my own. Reading your story this morning, I was truly struck by the similarities. I understand those feelings of dying inside so well but therapy did a world of good for me, too. My hat is off to you for having the strength and courage to take care of yourself and your children. Breaking the cycle is so difficult and yet, what else can we do?? I couldn't bear for my children to experience what I had as a child. Most of my family are still dubs and, of course, don't speak to me but that's actually a good thing as they are still pretty sick individuals. It is sad when families are broken apart; yet, in some cases as in mine, it may be a blessing in disguise.
Again, thank you for sharing a part of yourself with us.
Dana
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end...
Closing Time, Semisonic
